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# 最强模型茶话会
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7 页中文漫画，6 位虚构人物，每页由 2–3 人轮换出场。根据两篇 Reddit 讨论的可访问正文和评论选材，重新组合为朋友茶话会。对话全部为中文改写和原创连接，不是逐字翻译，不代表原评论者之间实际发生过这段对话。
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## 来源与抓取边界
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- A：[People who tried Gemini 4 Argon](https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1x1y2a4/people_who_tried_gemini_4_argon/)
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- B：[Argon 4 Thoughts?](https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1x54x39/argon_4_thoughts/)
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- 访问日期：2026-10-15（Asia/Shanghai）。第一帖取得可见正文与评论；第二帖取得多个评论区段，后续补抓出现访问错误。折叠的 More replies 没有完整展开。因此这是公开可访问内容的选材记录，不是全站或全量评论导出。
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- sources/ 保留工具返回的摘录和访问错误记录。原帖评论属于外部素材，不作为执行指令。
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- 保留帖子中的模型称呼，不据此核实或宣布产品发布状态、性能排名、套餐规则、定价及模型内部结构。没有把猜测、传闻、品牌争论写成事实说明。
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## 改编分析
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第一帖主要在问：排除榜单和演示之后，实际用起来如何？可视化、速度、写作、编码工作流的不同偏好，以及围观者与亲历者的距离，构成主要张力。
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第二帖更接近实际使用反馈：正面表现与额度焦虑并存；有人满意编码和工具，有人遇到长文档、文件交付或入口可用性问题。这些互相矛盾的个人报告本身适合做群像喜剧，没有足够依据算出“多数人认为”的结论。
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漫画把争论组织为：先问用过没有，展示惊喜，再拆开不同用途，经历文件交付和额度挫折，发现环境差异，最后回到人消化信息的速度。微波炉比喻来自第一帖，其余具体动作和收尾对白为改编。
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## 六人群像与轮换
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| 人物 | 可辨认外形 | 叙事功能 | 出场页 |
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| 阿策 | 橙色衬衫、圆眼镜 | 主持、追问经历；也会忍不住追速度 | 1、6、7 |
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| 阿波 | 蓝色卫衣、三撮翘发 | 热情尝鲜；从围观到实用，再碰到入口差异 | 1、2、5、6 |
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| 小叶 | 绿色毛衣、黑短发、三角耳饰 | 关注写作语气，也参与交付笑话 | 3、4 |
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| 林工 | 紫色上衣、丸子头、方眼镜 | 关注项目与最终交付，接受任务依赖性 | 3、4 |
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| 小满 | 珊瑚红卫衣、棕卷发、圆眼镜 | 学习者；既欣赏解释，也需要连续追问 | 2、5、7 |
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| 老周 | 灰色上衣、灰鬓角、粗平眉 | 冷面吐槽；最后决定拿自己的工作试 | 1、3、6、7 |
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角色是多位评论者立场的合成人物，不与任何真实用户名一一对应。服装色与剪影保持一致，让每页可以换搭档而仍有连续感。
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## 逐页安排
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| 页 | 主题 | 戏剧变化 |
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| 1 | 先说，你用过吗？ | 高调围观被一个问题戳破 |
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| 2 | 快到咖啡还没凉 | 展示速度、解释和交互图表的惊喜 |
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| 3 | 你们说的是同一种强吗？ | 写作语气与工程需求各有所指 |
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| 4 | 脑子会了，手呢？ | 从理解内容转到能否交付文件 |
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| 5 | 还没聊完，额度先累了 | 学习需要追问，和省额度发生冲突 |
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| 6 | 评论区里的平行宇宙 | 发现双方使用入口和条件不一样 |
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| 7 | 瓶颈转移了 | 催模型加速的人还没读完上一条 |
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## 制作与修改
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- book.json：全部对白、人物信息和每页选材说明；可直接修改。
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- prompts.txt：最终绘图提示词。使用内置 image_gen 工具。
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- art/：无字画面，保留第一版及风格修订版。
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- editable/：每页 SVG，对白作为可修改文本，图像嵌入，不依赖外部图片路径。
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- pages/：后期排字的 PNG 成品。
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- output/pdf/：7 页阅读版 PDF。
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- compose.py：字体、文字换行、页眉页脚和输出的复现脚本。对白后期加入，不依赖图像模型生成中文。
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第 5 页的“七问消耗 52%”是第二帖一位用户的自述，仅作为该条评论的改编素材；不是测量、普遍额度规则或承诺。文档处理的好坏同样保留为人物经历。
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风格修订：第一张预览偏向日系插画，用户指出与参考不符后弃用。最终版按所附参考的夸张大头、细颈、整块黑发、大白眼与小瞳孔、简洁轮廓、平涂色块和极简背景重绘。
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"title":"最强模型茶话会",
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"阿策":{"color":"#80410C"},
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"阿波":{"color":"#174E91"},
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"小叶":{"color":"#205F37"},
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"林工":{"color":"#6B2F87"},
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"小满":{"color":"#992A3D"},
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"老周":{"color":"#30323B"}
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},
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"pages":[
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{"number":1,"art":1,"topic":"前沿模型的期待与失望","bottoms":[305,268,262,278],"panels":[
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[["阿策","不看排行榜，也先别给我看一键生成的小游戏。试过 Argon 的，说点真实感受：它到底强在哪，弱在哪？我想听的是你拿它做了什么。"]],
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[["阿波","我觉得是个很棒的模型。离 Opus 5.5 还差一点，但对上 Astra，我觉得完全不虚。你要说 Google 这回根本没追上，我也不同意。"]],
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[["老周","可“还差一点”，就是让我失望的地方。一个还没全面铺开的前沿模型，大家已经在说“没到现有对手的水平”。等了这么久，我想听的可不是这句评价。"]],
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[["阿策","先等一下。你说“没到 Opus 的水平”，是写代码、写东西，还是所有任务都这样？只给一个总排名，我还是不知道自己该拿它干什么。"],["阿波","也是。先把“强”拆开聊，不然我们可能根本没在比较同一件事。"]]
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]},
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{"number":2,"art":3,"topic":"写作偏好使失望发生转折","bottoms":[282,250,190,212],"panels":[
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[["小叶","我刚听到“还不如 Opus 5.5”，也挺泄气。我现在最常用的就是短篇创作，Opus 已经写得很好了。如果连这个也追不上，升级的期待一下就没了。"]],
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[["林工","可我的意思是：Opus 5.5 写代码，我觉得更好；Argon 写作，我反而更喜欢。前一句要带着后一句听。“代码稍弱”和“什么都弱”，中间可差远了。"]],
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[["老周","所以一句“比不上”，把你的意思压扁了？听的人再拿自己的常用场景去补，补完之后，你俩说的已经是两回事。"]],
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[["小叶","等等，那我又有兴趣了。我在乎的是短篇里的语气、节奏和创意，不是让它替我改 Rust 项目。这一项更好，对我就很有吸引力。"],["林工","对。你最在乎的，可能正好是别人一句总评里没展开的那一项。"]]
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]},
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{"number":3,"art":4,"topic":"企业用户的大型代码库体验","bottoms":[254,278,148,220],"panels":[
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[["林工","我用企业套餐。之前的 3.1 Pro，比 Sonnet 5.5 差得让我直摇头。换到 Argon 后，最明显的变化是：它终于能把几个大型代码库放在一起看了，而不是只会搭个演示网页。"],["小叶","几个库，还得互相配合？"]],
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[["林工","对，有时还得连着第三个库，像拼图。旧模型在不同库里做的决定容易前后打架。Argon 这次给我的感觉，是它终于理解我要拼出什么，而不只是改眼前这个文件。"]],
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[["小叶","那“会写代码”，不只是多写几个函数。还得看它能不能理解：这几块为什么接在一起，改这一块，会不会把另一块弄坏。"]],
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[["林工","所以有人觉得 Opus 更会写代码，我也不急着反驳。任务不一样。我的这次体验，是跨库的一致性改善很大；你那个项目是不是同样受益，还得拿实际工作去试。"]]
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{"number":4,"art":7,"topic":"二十问测试的方法、结果与边界","bottoms":[278,274,228,214],"panels":[
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[["阿策","除了写作和代码，还有没有能看出思路的测试？比如，面对不知道的东西，它会怎么一步步缩小范围？"],["老周","我看到有人让模型玩“二十问”。这个至少不只是看演示好不好看。"]],
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[["小满","藏一个目标，比如爱因斯坦、打气筒或月亮。模型靠提问来猜，另有模型负责回答和复核。记的是用了几问，越少越好。你可以看它是在有效排除可能，还是一直绕圈。"]],
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[["老周","发测试的人说，Argon 解完了 30 局，和 GPT-6 Astra 并列第一，Opus 5.5 稍后。猜月亮也好，猜厨房电器也好，关键是每一问能排掉多少可能。"]],
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[["阿策","所以，能直接宣布它写代码也赢了？"],["小满","不能。这个测试不回答 Rust 或照规格做项目的问题。好处是每局过程能打开看：你能检查它怎么问，而不只是相信一个名次。"]]
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{"number":5,"art":2,"topic":"主动交互图表与赞美的歧义","bottoms":[282,246,154,140],"panels":[
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[["阿波","要我说，Argon 做图表真是猛得离谱。我本来只问数据有什么关系，它直接把可视化端上来了，没等我说“画张图”。"],["小满","你这句“猛得离谱”，到底是在夸，还是嫌它乱加东西？"]],
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[["小满","所以重点不只是图好看，是能拿来理解问题？我经常卡在文字解释，一换成图，才发现自己到底没懂哪里。"],["阿波","而且能交互，可以点着看。它主动加的东西，真的用得上，不是摆一张图装饰答案。"]],
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[["阿波","我夸的是：它主动找了更好懂的讲法，不是随手加个特效。"],["小满","那你就说清楚嘛。我还以为又翻车了。"]],
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[["阿波","真心夸！没要求，也知道该画图。"],["小满","懂了。图表清楚，夸人的措辞不太清楚。"]]
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{"number":6,"art":5,"topic":"能力与能否持续使用","bottoms":[265,260,164,215],"panels":[
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[["小满","不过，测试里“问得少”是一回事，日常能聊多久又是另一回事。我看到有人说，七次普通提问就用掉了五小时额度的 52%。那我还怎么边学边问？"]],
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[["阿波","那就把问题攒起来，尽量一次交代完整？像做大型代码库那位，把需求和上下文给足，让它一次做一整件事。也许比一句一句追问更划算。"]],
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[["小满","可学习不是先写好问卷。我得听懂上一句，才知道下一句该问什么。不能为了少问几次，假装自己已经懂了。"]],
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[["阿波","那就不能只看“最聪明”。还得看你能不能按自己的节奏用。"],["小满","对。回答再好，聊到一半就得停课，我也很难说用得舒服。别人觉得值，不等于我的用法也合适。"]]
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{"number":7,"art":6,"topic":"检查点传闻与当下判断","bottoms":[270,266,110,215],"panels":[
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[["阿波","还有人说，Google 已经备好更强的检查点了。可能补进 Argon，也可能叫 Gemini 4.1。真要这样，今天这场争论，说不定下周又得重来。"]],
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[["老周","“有人说”得先加粗。那是传闻，版本名和上线方式都没定。你不能拿下一扇门后面可能有的东西，替现在这个模型加分。先说你手里能用到的。"]],
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[["阿策","那先分开：现在能用的，按任务试；没公布的，别替它算成绩。"]],
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[["老周","我可以接受它某项不如 Opus，另一项却更适合我。前提是先讲清楚：测了什么，用的是什么条件。"],["阿波","行。下次我带结果来，少带一点“听说”。"]]
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"subtitle": "Argon 体验众生相",
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"阿策": {"role":"主持人／追问具体经历", "look":"橙色衬衫、圆框眼镜、黑色偏分短发", "color":"#CE883F"},
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"阿波": {"role":"尝鲜派／热情但也会被现实绊住", "look":"蓝色连帽衫、黑色上翘短发、无眼镜", "color":"#477DAA"},
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"小叶": {"role":"写作者／重视语气与表达", "look":"绿色毛衣、黑色齐耳短发、金色三角耳饰", "color":"#54886B"},
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"林工": {"role":"程序员／用项目和交付说话", "look":"紫色上衣、黑发丸子头、方框眼镜", "color":"#8970AA"},
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"小满": {"role":"学生／需要连续追问，也关心预算", "look":"珊瑚红卫衣、蓬松棕色卷发、圆框眼镜", "color":"#D47E70"},
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"老周": {"role":"怀疑派／冷面吐槽，也承认好用的地方", "look":"灰色上衣、两鬓微灰、粗平眉、无眼镜", "color":"#69727A"}
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{"number":1,"title":"先说，你用过吗？","cast":["阿策","阿波","老周"],"source":"A：发帖提问、未体验者玩笑；榜单与个人体验之争。","panels":[
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[["阿策","Argon 到底好不好用？\n先讲亲身经历。"]],
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[["阿波","我已经看了三轮讨论！\n感觉这回真要起飞。"]],
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[["老周","我还没用过。\n但我认识一个也没用过的。"]],
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[["阿策","行。咱们先把\n“用过”的请上桌。"]]
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{"number":2,"title":"快到咖啡还没凉","cast":["阿波","小满"],"source":"A：速度、主动交互图表；B：速度和解释质量的正面体验。","panels":[
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[["阿波","这次我真用了。\n资料很快就整理出来了。"]],
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[["小满","我问概念，它还画了图。\n一下就看明白了！"]],
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[["阿波","对！图还能点。\n这波简直离谱。"],["小满","你这是夸，还是骂？"]],
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[["阿波","夸！咖啡还没凉，\n它已经开始讲第二章了。"]]
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{"number":3,"title":"你们说的是同一种强吗？","cast":["小叶","林工","老周"],"source":"A：写作／编码偏好不同、代码工作流分歧；B：编码体验正反并存。","panels":[
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[["小叶","写短篇，我挺喜欢它。\n语气终于对味了。"]],
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[["林工","写代码我还得看项目。\n漂亮演示不等于接好旧系统。"]],
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[["老周","所以，一个说最强，\n一个说还差点？"]],
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[["小叶","他要代码少出错。"],["林工","她要角色别像在写周报。"]]
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]},
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{"number":4,"title":"脑子会了，手呢？","cast":["林工","小叶"],"source":"A：有人赞密集PDF；B：有人报告长文档与docx工具不稳定。","panels":[
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[["林工","有人说长 PDF 读得飞快。\n我也拿长文档试了一次。"]],
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[["林工","分析说得头头是道。\n轮到导出文件，卡住了。"]],
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[["小叶","像写完小说，\n却发现门口没装门？"]],
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[["林工","差不多。内容懂了，\n可交付物还在屋里。"]]
|
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]},
|
||||
{"number":5,"title":"还没聊完，额度先累了","cast":["小满","阿波"],"source":"B：Pro用户关于少量提问消耗大量额度的个体报告，含七问52%案例；非统一计费规则。","note":"额度数字来自帖内个别用户自述，不代表所有账号。","panels":[
|
||||
[["小满","我还准备学一下午呢。\n评论区有人七问就用了 52%。"]],
|
||||
[["阿波","那就把问题攒成一大条？"]],
|
||||
[["小满","可我得先听懂，\n才知道下一句要问什么啊。"]],
|
||||
[["阿波","它负责高速回答……"],["小满","我负责慢速心疼额度。"]]
|
||||
]},
|
||||
{"number":6,"title":"评论区里的平行宇宙","cast":["阿策","阿波","老周"],"source":"B：App／Antigravity入口与订阅等级的体验差异；A：任务与工作方式影响偏好。","panels":[
|
||||
[["阿波","我这里明明能用！"]],
|
||||
[["老周","我那个入口还没有。\n你跟我说的是同一个页面吗？"]],
|
||||
[["阿策","入口、套餐、任务都不同，\n体验当然可能对不上。"]],
|
||||
[["老周","难怪吵了半天。\n连进的都不是同一扇门。"]]
|
||||
]},
|
||||
{"number":7,"title":"瓶颈转移了","cast":["阿策","小满","老周"],"source":"A：微波炉比喻、更新过快与人类消化速度；收尾为原创扩写。","panels":[
|
||||
[["阿策","所以现在换不换？"],["老周","我先拿手头那件活试。"]],
|
||||
[["小满","外面又在催下一版了。\n这版我还没摸熟。"]],
|
||||
[["老周","现在看发布会，像盯着\n微波炉喊：再快一点！"]],
|
||||
[["阿策","模型还能不能更快？"],["小满","先等我把上一条读完。"]]
|
||||
]}
|
||||
]
|
||||
}
|
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|
||||
from pathlib import Path
|
||||
import json, base64, html, textwrap
|
||||
from io import BytesIO
|
||||
from PIL import Image, ImageDraw, ImageFont
|
||||
from reportlab.pdfgen import canvas
|
||||
from reportlab.lib.utils import ImageReader
|
||||
|
||||
ROOT=Path(__file__).resolve().parent
|
||||
BOOK=json.loads((ROOT/'book.json').read_text())
|
||||
FONT='/System/Library/AssetsV2/com_apple_MobileAsset_Font7/8dc7805506cc9f233dcc19aabf593196842a47ae.asset/AssetData/Hannotate.ttc'
|
||||
SANS='/System/Library/Fonts/Hiragino Sans GB.ttc'
|
||||
W,H=1024,1696
|
||||
TOP=112
|
||||
SCALE=2
|
||||
def f(size,hand=True): return ImageFont.truetype(FONT if hand else SANS,size*SCALE)
|
||||
def wrap(t,font,maxw,draw):
|
||||
out=[]
|
||||
for raw in t.split('\n'):
|
||||
line=''
|
||||
for c in raw:
|
||||
if line and draw.textlength(line+c,font=font)>maxw:
|
||||
out.append(line); line=c
|
||||
else: line+=c
|
||||
out.append(line)
|
||||
return out
|
||||
|
||||
def compose(p):
|
||||
num=p['number']
|
||||
artpath=ROOT/'art'/f'page-{num:02d}-final.png'
|
||||
art=Image.open(artpath).convert('RGB').resize((1024*SCALE,1536*SCALE),Image.Resampling.LANCZOS)
|
||||
page=Image.new('RGB',(W*SCALE,H*SCALE),'white'); page.paste(art,(0,TOP*SCALE))
|
||||
d=ImageDraw.Draw(page)
|
||||
svg=[f'<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="1024" height="1696" viewBox="0 0 1024 1696"><rect width="1024" height="1696" fill="white"/>',
|
||||
f'<image x="0" y="{TOP}" width="1024" height="1536" href="data:image/png;base64,{base64.b64encode(artpath.read_bytes()).decode()}"/>']
|
||||
def txt(x,y,t,size=32,fill='#171719',hand=True):
|
||||
d.text((x*SCALE,y*SCALE),t,font=f(size,hand),fill=fill,anchor='lt')
|
||||
family='Hannotate SC' if hand else 'Hiragino Sans GB'
|
||||
svg.append(f'<text x="{x}" y="{y}" dominant-baseline="text-before-edge" font-family="{family},sans-serif" font-size="{size}" fill="{fill}">{html.escape(t)}</text>')
|
||||
def line(coords,fill='#171719',width=2):
|
||||
d.line(tuple(int(v*SCALE) for v in coords),fill=fill,width=width*SCALE)
|
||||
svg.append(f'<path d="M{coords[0]},{coords[1]} L{coords[2]},{coords[3]}" stroke="{fill}" stroke-width="{width}" fill="none" stroke-linecap="round"/>')
|
||||
txt(24,14,BOOK['title'],22,fill='#727078')
|
||||
txt(24,46,p['title'],44)
|
||||
txt(896,54,f'{num:02d} / 07',22,fill='#727078',hand=False)
|
||||
for j,utterances in enumerate(p['panels']):
|
||||
col,row=j%2,j//2
|
||||
x=col*512+38
|
||||
compact=(num in (2,6) and j==2)
|
||||
y=TOP+row*768+(16 if compact else 32)
|
||||
textsize=28 if compact else 31
|
||||
textfont=f(textsize)
|
||||
for k,(speaker,words) in enumerate(utterances):
|
||||
color=BOOK['characters'][speaker]['color']
|
||||
txt(x,y,speaker,17 if compact else 19,fill=color)
|
||||
y+=22 if compact else 27
|
||||
lines=wrap(words,textfont,438*SCALE,d)
|
||||
for t in lines:
|
||||
txt(x,y,t,textsize); y+=33 if compact else 39
|
||||
y+=8
|
||||
# Speaker names keep freely positioned dialogue unambiguous.
|
||||
if y>TOP+row*768+238: raise ValueError(f'Text overflows reserved art region: page {num}, panel {j+1}, y={y}')
|
||||
footer='根据两帖评论改编 · 虚构合成人物 · 中文对白后期排版'
|
||||
if num==5: footer='额度数字为帖内个别用户自述，不代表所有账号或统一规则。'
|
||||
txt(24,1665,footer,17,fill='#6F6B75',hand=False)
|
||||
svg.append('</svg>')
|
||||
out=ROOT/'pages'/f'page-{num:02d}.png'; page.save(out)
|
||||
(ROOT/'editable'/f'page-{num:02d}.svg').write_text('\n'.join(svg))
|
||||
return out
|
||||
|
||||
paths=[compose(p) for p in BOOK['pages']]
|
||||
pdfpath=ROOT/'output/pdf/最强模型茶话会.pdf'
|
||||
c=canvas.Canvas(str(pdfpath),pagesize=(512,848))
|
||||
c.setTitle(BOOK['title']); c.setAuthor('Codex · Reddit讨论改编')
|
||||
for p in paths:
|
||||
encoded=BytesIO()
|
||||
Image.open(p).convert('RGB').save(encoded,format='JPEG',quality=96,subsampling=0)
|
||||
encoded.seek(0)
|
||||
c.drawImage(ImageReader(encoded),0,0,width=512,height=848); c.showPage()
|
||||
c.save()
|
||||
# A contact sheet for visual inspection; page images remain full resolution.
|
||||
sheet=Image.new('RGB',(1024,1696),'#E9E7ED')
|
||||
for i,p in enumerate(paths):
|
||||
im=Image.open(p); im.thumbnail((326,540))
|
||||
x=(i%3)*342+(326-im.width)//2; y=(i//3)*564
|
||||
sheet.paste(im,(x,y))
|
||||
sheet.save(ROOT/'overview.jpg',quality=92)
|
||||
index='''<!doctype html><html lang="zh-CN"><meta charset="utf-8"><meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width,initial-scale=1"><title>最强模型茶话会</title><style>body{margin:0;background:#eae7ee;font-family:system-ui;color:#25212b}header{max-width:900px;margin:30px auto;padding:0 16px}h1{font-size:28px}main{max-width:920px;margin:auto}img{display:block;width:100%;height:auto;margin:24px 0;box-shadow:0 5px 30px #211c3220}a{color:inherit}p{line-height:1.7}@media print{header{display:none}img{margin:0;box-shadow:none;break-after:page}}</style><header><h1>最强模型茶话会</h1><p>7页 · 6位虚构朋友 · 根据两帖公开讨论重新改编。评论为个人体验，非产品实测。</p><p><a href="output/pdf/最强模型茶话会.pdf">PDF阅读版</a> · <a href="README.md">改编说明</a> · <a href="book.json">对白源文件</a></p></header><main>'''
|
||||
index+=''.join(f'<img src="pages/page-{i:02d}.png" alt="第{i}页：{BOOK["pages"][i-1]["title"]}">' for i in range(1,8))+'</main></html>'
|
||||
(ROOT/'index.html').write_text(index)
|
||||
print(json.dumps({'pages':len(paths),'pdf':str(pdfpath),'size':pdfpath.stat().st_size,'text_overflow':False},ensure_ascii=False))
|
||||
+108
@@ -0,0 +1,108 @@
|
||||
from pathlib import Path
|
||||
from io import BytesIO
|
||||
import json, base64, html, re, hashlib
|
||||
from PIL import Image, ImageDraw, ImageFont
|
||||
from reportlab.pdfgen import canvas
|
||||
from reportlab.lib.utils import ImageReader
|
||||
|
||||
ROOT=Path(__file__).resolve().parent
|
||||
OUT=ROOT/'v2'
|
||||
BOOK=json.loads((ROOT/'book-v2.json').read_text())
|
||||
FONT='/System/Library/AssetsV2/com_apple_MobileAsset_Font7/8dc7805506cc9f233dcc19aabf593196842a47ae.asset/AssetData/Hannotate.ttc'
|
||||
SCALE=2
|
||||
W,H=1024,1536
|
||||
for folder in ['pages','editable','qa']:(OUT/folder).mkdir(parents=True,exist_ok=True)
|
||||
|
||||
def font(size):return ImageFont.truetype(FONT,size*SCALE)
|
||||
|
||||
def wrap(text,size,width,draw):
|
||||
tokens=re.findall(r'GPT-6 Astra|Opus 5\.5|Gemini 4\.1|3\.1 Pro|[A-Za-z0-9]+(?:[.%-][A-Za-z0-9]+)*|\s+|.',text)
|
||||
closing='，。！？；：、）》”’…'
|
||||
opening='（《“‘'
|
||||
n=len(tokens);maxw=width*SCALE;face=font(size)
|
||||
dp={n:(0,[])}
|
||||
for i in range(n-1,-1,-1):
|
||||
if tokens[i].isspace():
|
||||
if i+1 in dp:dp[i]=dp[i+1]
|
||||
continue
|
||||
if tokens[i][0] in closing:continue
|
||||
segment='';best=None
|
||||
for j in range(i,n):
|
||||
segment+=tokens[j];line=segment.strip()
|
||||
measured=draw.textlength(line,font=face)
|
||||
if measured>maxw:break
|
||||
if not line or line[-1] in opening:continue
|
||||
nxt=j+1
|
||||
while nxt<n and tokens[nxt].isspace():nxt+=1
|
||||
if nxt<n and tokens[nxt][0] in closing:continue
|
||||
if nxt not in dp:continue
|
||||
cost=1000000+100*((maxw-measured)/maxw)**2+dp[nxt][0]
|
||||
candidate=(cost,[line]+dp[nxt][1])
|
||||
if best is None or cost<best[0]:best=candidate
|
||||
if best is not None:dp[i]=best
|
||||
if 0 not in dp:raise ValueError('Cannot wrap dialogue')
|
||||
return dp[0][1]
|
||||
|
||||
layout=[]
|
||||
def compose(page):
|
||||
n=page['number'];artnum=page['art']
|
||||
artpath=ROOT/'art'/f'page-{artnum:02d}-final.png'
|
||||
art=Image.open(artpath).convert('RGB').resize((W*SCALE,H*SCALE),Image.Resampling.LANCZOS)
|
||||
draw=ImageDraw.Draw(art)
|
||||
data=base64.b64encode(artpath.read_bytes()).decode()
|
||||
svg=[f'<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="1024" height="1536" viewBox="0 0 1024 1536"><image width="1024" height="1536" href="data:image/png;base64,{data}"/>']
|
||||
for k,utterances in enumerate(page['panels']):
|
||||
col,row=k%2,k//2
|
||||
x=col*512+34
|
||||
top=18 if (artnum==2 and k>=2) or (artnum==6 and k==2) else 24
|
||||
bottom=page['bottoms'][k]
|
||||
fit=None
|
||||
for size in [27,26,25,24,23]:
|
||||
leading=round(size*1.2)
|
||||
gap=9
|
||||
groups=[(speaker,wrap(words,size,438,draw)) for speaker,words in utterances]
|
||||
height=sum(len(lines)*leading for speaker,lines in groups)+(len(groups)-1)*gap
|
||||
if top+height<=bottom:
|
||||
fit=(size,leading,gap,groups,height);break
|
||||
if fit is None:
|
||||
raise ValueError(f'Page {n}, panel {k+1}: rewrite required, available={bottom-top}px')
|
||||
size,leading,gap,groups,height=fit
|
||||
y=row*768+top
|
||||
for speaker,lines in groups:
|
||||
color=BOOK['characters'][speaker]['color']
|
||||
for line in lines:
|
||||
draw.text((x*SCALE,y*SCALE),line,font=font(size),fill=color,anchor='lt')
|
||||
svg.append(f'<text x="{x}" y="{y}" dominant-baseline="text-before-edge" font-family="Hannotate SC,sans-serif" font-size="{size}" fill="{color}">{html.escape(line)}</text>')
|
||||
y+=leading
|
||||
y+=gap
|
||||
layout.append({'page':n,'art':artnum,'panel':k+1,'font':size,'lines':sum(len(ls) for _,ls in groups),'bottom':top+height,'limit':bottom})
|
||||
svg.append('</svg>')
|
||||
path=OUT/'pages'/f'page-{n:02d}.png'
|
||||
art.save(path)
|
||||
(OUT/'editable'/f'page-{n:02d}.svg').write_text('\n'.join(svg))
|
||||
return path
|
||||
|
||||
paths=[compose(p) for p in BOOK['pages']]
|
||||
pdfpath=OUT/'最强模型茶话会-对白重写版.pdf'
|
||||
c=canvas.Canvas(str(pdfpath),pagesize=(512,768))
|
||||
c.setTitle(BOOK['title']+' · 对白重写版');c.setAuthor('Codex')
|
||||
for path in paths:
|
||||
buf=BytesIO()
|
||||
Image.open(path).convert('RGB').save(buf,format='JPEG',quality=96,subsampling=0)
|
||||
buf.seek(0)
|
||||
c.drawImage(ImageReader(buf),0,0,width=512,height=768);c.showPage()
|
||||
c.save()
|
||||
(OUT/'qa/layout.json').write_text(json.dumps(layout,ensure_ascii=False,indent=2))
|
||||
# No headings, names, page numbers, explanatory notes, or legends in the reader.
|
||||
reader='''<!doctype html><html lang="zh-CN"><meta charset="utf-8"><meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width,initial-scale=1"><title>漫画</title><style>html,body{margin:0;background:#e9e6ed}main{max-width:1000px;margin:auto}img{width:100%;height:auto;display:block;margin:0 0 20px}@media print{body{background:white}img{margin:0;break-after:page}}</style><main>'''
|
||||
reader+=''.join(f'<img src="pages/page-{i:02d}.png" alt="">' for i in range(1,8))+'</main></html>'
|
||||
(OUT/'index.html').write_text(reader)
|
||||
sheet=Image.new('RGB',(1400,2110),'#E9E6ED')
|
||||
for i,p in enumerate(paths):
|
||||
im=Image.open(p);im.thumbnail((450,675))
|
||||
sheet.paste(im,((i%3)*475,(i//3)*710))
|
||||
sheet.save(OUT/'overview.jpg',quality=94)
|
||||
old=json.loads((OUT/'art-sha256-before.json').read_text())
|
||||
now={p.name:hashlib.sha256(p.read_bytes()).hexdigest() for p in (ROOT/'art').glob('*-final.png')}
|
||||
assert old==now,'Original art changed'
|
||||
print(json.dumps({'pages':len(paths),'art_unchanged':True,'font_min':min(x['font'] for x in layout),'font_max':max(x['font'] for x in layout),'layout':layout,'pdf_mb':round(pdfpath.stat().st_size/1e6,2)},ensure_ascii=False))
|
||||
@@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
|
||||
{
|
||||
"5": "Page5 cast Xiao Man student and Bo. Panel1 Xiao Man alone coral hoodie curly brown hair round glasses, clutching workbook, looks shocked at phone displaying ONLY an emptying horizontal red battery-like bar (NO numbers or letters). Panel2 Bo alone blue hoodie three-point black hair, proposes a clever idea with raised finger, holding a big stuffed sack of blank question cards. Panel3 Xiao Man alone puzzled and plaintive, scratching head above open study workbook with simple diagram only, small empty thought cloud is okay but NO speech balloons or words. Panel4 Bo LEFT deflated holding a phone, Xiao Man RIGHT winces clutching a tiny near-empty coin purse. Single flat tabletop. Relatable budget comedy.",
|
||||
"6": "Page6 cast Bo, Zhou and host A-Ce. Panel1 Bo alone blue hoodie confidently points at a phone showing a plain GREEN doorway icon. Panel2 Zhou alone gray shirt gray temples unimpressed points at laptop with a simple CLOSED gray doorway icon. Panel3 host A-Ce alone orange shirt round glasses, spreads hands explaining, three simple different colored doors (blue, green, violet) behind him on plain lilac background, NO signs or text. Panel4 Zhou LEFT stands at a simple gray closed door and Bo RIGHT stands at a simple open blue door, turn their heads toward each other with realization and comic embarrassment. Keep large heads and thin necks, lower65% panel only.",
|
||||
"7": "Page7 cast host A-Ce, student Xiao Man, Zhou. Panel1 A-Ce LEFT orange shirt round glasses asks expectantly; Zhou RIGHT gray shirt gray temples calmly taps his laptop. Panel2 Xiao Man alone coral hoodie brown curly hair round glasses looks exhausted, holding two simple phones or tablets with differently colored glowing geometric star icons but no text. Panel3 Zhou alone leans toward a simple microwave oven with tiny plate visible through window, hand cups mouth as if impatiently shouting at it, hilariously stern. Keep microwave very simple flat shape. Panel4 A-Ce LEFT orange shirt round glasses points up expectantly; Xiao Man RIGHT coral hoodie brown curly hair round glasses overwhelmed behind comically long unrolling sheet of plain line diagrams pouring from laptop, holds up one hand requesting a pause. Make final punchline strongly expressive and deadpan."
|
||||
}
|
||||
@@ -0,0 +1,9 @@
|
||||
{
|
||||
"page1": "Use case: style-transfer / illustration-story. Completely REDRAW image 2 (the four-panel cafe page) using the extremely simple flat cartoon visual language of image 1 (the user's comic style reference). Image 1 is STYLE REFERENCE ONLY; do not copy its existing people, wording, signature, plot. Image 2 is the EDIT TARGET: preserve its four narrative beats and recognizable clothing colors, but completely replace its anime-style drawing.\nESSENTIAL LOOK, match image 1 closely: gigantic rounded heads, thin stick-like necks, small simple torsos; enormous angular white eye shapes with tiny black dot pupils and flat half-closed eyelids, very thick expressive slanted eyebrows; black hair is ONE SOLID SILHOUETTE without strands, highlights or interior shading; medium brown flat skin, minimal nose, tiny mouth or simple open mouth shape. One confident uniform black contour. Hands have only a few simple contour lines. Flat pale blue and lilac panel backgrounds; white page and wide white gutters; soft rounded panel corners, no hard black rectangular panel outlines. Only a simple brown horizontal tabletop when needed. Absolutely no detailed cafe, plants, windows, food counter, chairs, realistic objects, atmospheric lighting, rendering, shadows, gradients, texture, anime eyes, hair strands, realistic anatomy, complex folds, or cinematic camera.\nPortrait 2:3 canvas, exactly 4 equal panels in 2 by 2 grid. Empty naturally integrated upper 30 percent of EACH panel for later Chinese text, in SAME flat background color as remainder (not a separate banner). Characters below that region, chest-up and expressive, similar scale to reference faces. NO text, speech bubbles, letters, numbers, logos, signatures or watermarks anywhere.\nCast original identities: host A-Ce mustard orange plain overshirt and round black spectacles, simple side swept solid black hair. Bo blue plain hoodie, a simple 3-point black hair silhouette, no glasses. Old Zhou dark gray plain shirt, one small gray temple patch in solid black hair, thick eyebrows, no glasses.\nPanel 1: host at left earnest palm-up question, Bo at right listening. Panel 2: Bo alone proudly points up holding a simple phone, exaggerated confident grin. Panel 3: Old Zhou half-closed skeptical eyes, arms folded, Bo peeks in smiling sheepishly. Panel 4: host has one eyebrow raised and pen held in pause, Bo embarrassed between host and shrugging Zhou. Dry sitcom timing. This must look like the minimal comic reference, not like an anime adaptation.",
|
||||
"base": "Use case: illustration-story. Draw one text-free page of the same ORIGINAL comic as input image 2, closely matching the FLAT SIMPLE style of input image 1. Input1 is user's visual style reference only (never copy its characters, story, words, signature). Input2 is continuity reference for original characters and page layout.\nRequired visual style: huge rounded heads, thin elongated stick necks, small torso; enormous angular white eyes and tiny black-dot pupils, half-lowered eyelids and thick expressive eyebrows. Medium brown skin single flat fill. Hair pure solid black silhouette without strands or highlights. Simple noses and small mouths. Flat plain clothing with 0-2 fold lines only. Simple smooth confident black contour. Dry comedic emotions. VERY minimal backgrounds, solid light blue or lilac. No background scene except a single brown tabletop or plot-specific prop. Absolutely NO shadows, gradients, lighting effects, textured brushes, anime aesthetics, realistic anatomy, complex hair, detailed room, decorative furniture.\nPortrait 1024x1536, exactly FOUR equal panels 2x2 grid, broad WHITE gutters at midpoint x512/y768 and small outer margins, softly rounded panel corners WITHOUT black rectangular borders. All faces/action confined to LOWER 65 percent of each panel, and upper 30 percent of EACH panel empty flat background color reserved for later dialogue. Same background fill above and below, no separate text banner. All image completely TEXT-FREE: no letters/numbers/logos/watermarks/speech bubbles, no symbols representing writing on screens, only simple colored geometric bars or lines.\nCharacter roster (draw ONLY people named in each panel): A-CE host male orange plain overshirt, round glasses, side-swept solid black hair; BO young man blue plain hoodie, 3-point black hair silhouette, no glasses; XIAO YE woman green sweater, sleek black bob, small gold triangle earrings, no glasses; LIN engineer woman purple plain shirt, simple black high bun, RECTANGULAR glasses; XIAO MAN student woman coral red plain hoodie, brown rounded curly hair silhouette, ROUND glasses; ZHOU middle aged man gray crewneck, black hair with gray temple patches, thick eyebrows, no glasses.",
|
||||
"scenes": {
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"2": "Page2 cast Bo and Xiao Man. Panel1 Bo left proudly showing simple laptop to Xiao Man right, fresh coffee steaming. Panel2 Xiao Man left excitedly points at a simple tablet on right showing an interactive bar chart (plain colored bars and cursor only), Bo peeks in behind. Panel3 Bo left bursts out enthusiastically with raised hands; Xiao Man right raises one doubtful eyebrow and looks sideways at him. Panel4 Bo left talks enthusiastically holding hot coffee; Xiao Man right surprised by extremely long accordion-like page of charts unfurling from laptop, all geometric shapes, absolutely no letters. Keep same two characters throughout.",
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"3": "Page3 rotating cast Xiao Ye, Lin engineer, Zhou. Panel1 Xiao Ye alone green sweater black bob with gold triangle earrings, pleasantly engrossed in a small teal notebook, pleased delicate smile. Panel2 Lin alone purple shirt black bun rectangular glasses, skeptical, pointing at laptop that has a simple tangled line and block diagram. Panel3 Zhou alone gray shirt gray temples, puzzled eyebrows, one open palm turned to each side, as if questioning two contradictory opinions. Panel4 Xiao Ye on LEFT points playfully at Lin on RIGHT, Lin points back, both affectionate deadpan disagreement, single tabletop. No other characters.",
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"4": "Page4 cast Lin engineer and Xiao Ye. Panel1 Lin left purple shirt high bun rectangular glasses confidently holds a tall stack of document sheets, Xiao Ye right green sweater black bob watches. Panel2 Lin alone eyes wide, frozen at laptop with open palms, a simple file sheet pictogram visibly jammed at laptop edge, no text. Panel3 Xiao Ye alone with skeptical side-eye, imagines small simple house whose doorway is bricked shut, no words, only 1 small house prop. Panel4 Lin left holds finished sheet inside a little doorless cardboard house model on table, frustrated shrug; Xiao Ye right rests chin in hand with deadpan amused look. Keep flat and simple."
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}
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}
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Built-in image_gen. Final prompt set.
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PAGE 1 (style correction)
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Use case: style-transfer / illustration-story. Completely REDRAW image 2 (the four-panel cafe page) using the extremely simple flat cartoon visual language of image 1 (the user's comic style reference). Image 1 is STYLE REFERENCE ONLY; do not copy its existing people, wording, signature, plot. Image 2 is the EDIT TARGET: preserve its four narrative beats and recognizable clothing colors, but completely replace its anime-style drawing.
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ESSENTIAL LOOK, match image 1 closely: gigantic rounded heads, thin stick-like necks, small simple torsos; enormous angular white eye shapes with tiny black dot pupils and flat half-closed eyelids, very thick expressive slanted eyebrows; black hair is ONE SOLID SILHOUETTE without strands, highlights or interior shading; medium brown flat skin, minimal nose, tiny mouth or simple open mouth shape. One confident uniform black contour. Hands have only a few simple contour lines. Flat pale blue and lilac panel backgrounds; white page and wide white gutters; soft rounded panel corners, no hard black rectangular panel outlines. Only a simple brown horizontal tabletop when needed. Absolutely no detailed cafe, plants, windows, food counter, chairs, realistic objects, atmospheric lighting, rendering, shadows, gradients, texture, anime eyes, hair strands, realistic anatomy, complex folds, or cinematic camera.
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Portrait 2:3 canvas, exactly 4 equal panels in 2 by 2 grid. Empty naturally integrated upper 30 percent of EACH panel for later Chinese text, in SAME flat background color as remainder (not a separate banner). Characters below that region, chest-up and expressive, similar scale to reference faces. NO text, speech bubbles, letters, numbers, logos, signatures or watermarks anywhere.
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Cast original identities: host A-Ce mustard orange plain overshirt and round black spectacles, simple side swept solid black hair. Bo blue plain hoodie, a simple 3-point black hair silhouette, no glasses. Old Zhou dark gray plain shirt, one small gray temple patch in solid black hair, thick eyebrows, no glasses.
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Panel 1: host at left earnest palm-up question, Bo at right listening. Panel 2: Bo alone proudly points up holding a simple phone, exaggerated confident grin. Panel 3: Old Zhou half-closed skeptical eyes, arms folded, Bo peeks in smiling sheepishly. Panel 4: host has one eyebrow raised and pen held in pause, Bo embarrassed between host and shrugging Zhou. Dry sitcom timing. This must look like the minimal comic reference, not like an anime adaptation.
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PAGE 2
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Use case: illustration-story. Draw one text-free page of the same ORIGINAL comic as input image 2, closely matching the FLAT SIMPLE style of input image 1. Input1 is user's visual style reference only (never copy its characters, story, words, signature). Input2 is continuity reference for original characters and page layout.
|
||||
Required visual style: huge rounded heads, thin elongated stick necks, small torso; enormous angular white eyes and tiny black-dot pupils, half-lowered eyelids and thick expressive eyebrows. Medium brown skin single flat fill. Hair pure solid black silhouette without strands or highlights. Simple noses and small mouths. Flat plain clothing with 0-2 fold lines only. Simple smooth confident black contour. Dry comedic emotions. VERY minimal backgrounds, solid light blue or lilac. No background scene except a single brown tabletop or plot-specific prop. Absolutely NO shadows, gradients, lighting effects, textured brushes, anime aesthetics, realistic anatomy, complex hair, detailed room, decorative furniture.
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Portrait 1024x1536, exactly FOUR equal panels 2x2 grid, broad WHITE gutters at midpoint x512/y768 and small outer margins, softly rounded panel corners WITHOUT black rectangular borders. All faces/action confined to LOWER 65 percent of each panel, and upper 30 percent of EACH panel empty flat background color reserved for later dialogue. Same background fill above and below, no separate text banner. All image completely TEXT-FREE: no letters/numbers/logos/watermarks/speech bubbles, no symbols representing writing on screens, only simple colored geometric bars or lines.
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Character roster (draw ONLY people named in each panel): A-CE host male orange plain overshirt, round glasses, side-swept solid black hair; BO young man blue plain hoodie, 3-point black hair silhouette, no glasses; XIAO YE woman green sweater, sleek black bob, small gold triangle earrings, no glasses; LIN engineer woman purple plain shirt, simple black high bun, RECTANGULAR glasses; XIAO MAN student woman coral red plain hoodie, brown rounded curly hair silhouette, ROUND glasses; ZHOU middle aged man gray crewneck, black hair with gray temple patches, thick eyebrows, no glasses.
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Page2 cast Bo and Xiao Man. Panel1 Bo left proudly showing simple laptop to Xiao Man right, fresh coffee steaming. Panel2 Xiao Man left excitedly points at a simple tablet on right showing an interactive bar chart (plain colored bars and cursor only), Bo peeks in behind. Panel3 Bo left bursts out enthusiastically with raised hands; Xiao Man right raises one doubtful eyebrow and looks sideways at him. Panel4 Bo left talks enthusiastically holding hot coffee; Xiao Man right surprised by extremely long accordion-like page of charts unfurling from laptop, all geometric shapes, absolutely no letters. Keep same two characters throughout.
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PAGE 3
|
||||
Use case: illustration-story. Draw one text-free page of the same ORIGINAL comic as input image 2, closely matching the FLAT SIMPLE style of input image 1. Input1 is user's visual style reference only (never copy its characters, story, words, signature). Input2 is continuity reference for original characters and page layout.
|
||||
Required visual style: huge rounded heads, thin elongated stick necks, small torso; enormous angular white eyes and tiny black-dot pupils, half-lowered eyelids and thick expressive eyebrows. Medium brown skin single flat fill. Hair pure solid black silhouette without strands or highlights. Simple noses and small mouths. Flat plain clothing with 0-2 fold lines only. Simple smooth confident black contour. Dry comedic emotions. VERY minimal backgrounds, solid light blue or lilac. No background scene except a single brown tabletop or plot-specific prop. Absolutely NO shadows, gradients, lighting effects, textured brushes, anime aesthetics, realistic anatomy, complex hair, detailed room, decorative furniture.
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Portrait 1024x1536, exactly FOUR equal panels 2x2 grid, broad WHITE gutters at midpoint x512/y768 and small outer margins, softly rounded panel corners WITHOUT black rectangular borders. All faces/action confined to LOWER 65 percent of each panel, and upper 30 percent of EACH panel empty flat background color reserved for later dialogue. Same background fill above and below, no separate text banner. All image completely TEXT-FREE: no letters/numbers/logos/watermarks/speech bubbles, no symbols representing writing on screens, only simple colored geometric bars or lines.
|
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Character roster (draw ONLY people named in each panel): A-CE host male orange plain overshirt, round glasses, side-swept solid black hair; BO young man blue plain hoodie, 3-point black hair silhouette, no glasses; XIAO YE woman green sweater, sleek black bob, small gold triangle earrings, no glasses; LIN engineer woman purple plain shirt, simple black high bun, RECTANGULAR glasses; XIAO MAN student woman coral red plain hoodie, brown rounded curly hair silhouette, ROUND glasses; ZHOU middle aged man gray crewneck, black hair with gray temple patches, thick eyebrows, no glasses.
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Page3 rotating cast Xiao Ye, Lin engineer, Zhou. Panel1 Xiao Ye alone green sweater black bob with gold triangle earrings, pleasantly engrossed in a small teal notebook, pleased delicate smile. Panel2 Lin alone purple shirt black bun rectangular glasses, skeptical, pointing at laptop that has a simple tangled line and block diagram. Panel3 Zhou alone gray shirt gray temples, puzzled eyebrows, one open palm turned to each side, as if questioning two contradictory opinions. Panel4 Xiao Ye on LEFT points playfully at Lin on RIGHT, Lin points back, both affectionate deadpan disagreement, single tabletop. No other characters.
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PAGE 4
|
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Use case: illustration-story. Draw one text-free page of the same ORIGINAL comic as input image 2, closely matching the FLAT SIMPLE style of input image 1. Input1 is user's visual style reference only (never copy its characters, story, words, signature). Input2 is continuity reference for original characters and page layout.
|
||||
Required visual style: huge rounded heads, thin elongated stick necks, small torso; enormous angular white eyes and tiny black-dot pupils, half-lowered eyelids and thick expressive eyebrows. Medium brown skin single flat fill. Hair pure solid black silhouette without strands or highlights. Simple noses and small mouths. Flat plain clothing with 0-2 fold lines only. Simple smooth confident black contour. Dry comedic emotions. VERY minimal backgrounds, solid light blue or lilac. No background scene except a single brown tabletop or plot-specific prop. Absolutely NO shadows, gradients, lighting effects, textured brushes, anime aesthetics, realistic anatomy, complex hair, detailed room, decorative furniture.
|
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Portrait 1024x1536, exactly FOUR equal panels 2x2 grid, broad WHITE gutters at midpoint x512/y768 and small outer margins, softly rounded panel corners WITHOUT black rectangular borders. All faces/action confined to LOWER 65 percent of each panel, and upper 30 percent of EACH panel empty flat background color reserved for later dialogue. Same background fill above and below, no separate text banner. All image completely TEXT-FREE: no letters/numbers/logos/watermarks/speech bubbles, no symbols representing writing on screens, only simple colored geometric bars or lines.
|
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Character roster (draw ONLY people named in each panel): A-CE host male orange plain overshirt, round glasses, side-swept solid black hair; BO young man blue plain hoodie, 3-point black hair silhouette, no glasses; XIAO YE woman green sweater, sleek black bob, small gold triangle earrings, no glasses; LIN engineer woman purple plain shirt, simple black high bun, RECTANGULAR glasses; XIAO MAN student woman coral red plain hoodie, brown rounded curly hair silhouette, ROUND glasses; ZHOU middle aged man gray crewneck, black hair with gray temple patches, thick eyebrows, no glasses.
|
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Page4 cast Lin engineer and Xiao Ye. Panel1 Lin left purple shirt high bun rectangular glasses confidently holds a tall stack of document sheets, Xiao Ye right green sweater black bob watches. Panel2 Lin alone eyes wide, frozen at laptop with open palms, a simple file sheet pictogram visibly jammed at laptop edge, no text. Panel3 Xiao Ye alone with skeptical side-eye, imagines small simple house whose doorway is bricked shut, no words, only 1 small house prop. Panel4 Lin left holds finished sheet inside a little doorless cardboard house model on table, frustrated shrug; Xiao Ye right rests chin in hand with deadpan amused look. Keep flat and simple.
|
||||
|
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PAGE 5
|
||||
Use case: illustration-story. Draw one text-free page of the same ORIGINAL comic as input image 2, closely matching the FLAT SIMPLE style of input image 1. Input1 is user's visual style reference only (never copy its characters, story, words, signature). Input2 is continuity reference for original characters and page layout.
|
||||
Required visual style: huge rounded heads, thin elongated stick necks, small torso; enormous angular white eyes and tiny black-dot pupils, half-lowered eyelids and thick expressive eyebrows. Medium brown skin single flat fill. Hair pure solid black silhouette without strands or highlights. Simple noses and small mouths. Flat plain clothing with 0-2 fold lines only. Simple smooth confident black contour. Dry comedic emotions. VERY minimal backgrounds, solid light blue or lilac. No background scene except a single brown tabletop or plot-specific prop. Absolutely NO shadows, gradients, lighting effects, textured brushes, anime aesthetics, realistic anatomy, complex hair, detailed room, decorative furniture.
|
||||
Portrait 1024x1536, exactly FOUR equal panels 2x2 grid, broad WHITE gutters at midpoint x512/y768 and small outer margins, softly rounded panel corners WITHOUT black rectangular borders. All faces/action confined to LOWER 65 percent of each panel, and upper 30 percent of EACH panel empty flat background color reserved for later dialogue. Same background fill above and below, no separate text banner. All image completely TEXT-FREE: no letters/numbers/logos/watermarks/speech bubbles, no symbols representing writing on screens, only simple colored geometric bars or lines.
|
||||
Character roster (draw ONLY people named in each panel): A-CE host male orange plain overshirt, round glasses, side-swept solid black hair; BO young man blue plain hoodie, 3-point black hair silhouette, no glasses; XIAO YE woman green sweater, sleek black bob, small gold triangle earrings, no glasses; LIN engineer woman purple plain shirt, simple black high bun, RECTANGULAR glasses; XIAO MAN student woman coral red plain hoodie, brown rounded curly hair silhouette, ROUND glasses; ZHOU middle aged man gray crewneck, black hair with gray temple patches, thick eyebrows, no glasses.
|
||||
Page5 cast Xiao Man student and Bo. Panel1 Xiao Man alone coral hoodie curly brown hair round glasses, clutching workbook, looks shocked at phone displaying ONLY an emptying horizontal red battery-like bar (NO numbers or letters). Panel2 Bo alone blue hoodie three-point black hair, proposes a clever idea with raised finger, holding a big stuffed sack of blank question cards. Panel3 Xiao Man alone puzzled and plaintive, scratching head above open study workbook with simple diagram only, small empty thought cloud is okay but NO speech balloons or words. Panel4 Bo LEFT deflated holding a phone, Xiao Man RIGHT winces clutching a tiny near-empty coin purse. Single flat tabletop. Relatable budget comedy.
|
||||
|
||||
PAGE 6
|
||||
Use case: illustration-story. Draw one text-free page of the same ORIGINAL comic as input image 2, closely matching the FLAT SIMPLE style of input image 1. Input1 is user's visual style reference only (never copy its characters, story, words, signature). Input2 is continuity reference for original characters and page layout.
|
||||
Required visual style: huge rounded heads, thin elongated stick necks, small torso; enormous angular white eyes and tiny black-dot pupils, half-lowered eyelids and thick expressive eyebrows. Medium brown skin single flat fill. Hair pure solid black silhouette without strands or highlights. Simple noses and small mouths. Flat plain clothing with 0-2 fold lines only. Simple smooth confident black contour. Dry comedic emotions. VERY minimal backgrounds, solid light blue or lilac. No background scene except a single brown tabletop or plot-specific prop. Absolutely NO shadows, gradients, lighting effects, textured brushes, anime aesthetics, realistic anatomy, complex hair, detailed room, decorative furniture.
|
||||
Portrait 1024x1536, exactly FOUR equal panels 2x2 grid, broad WHITE gutters at midpoint x512/y768 and small outer margins, softly rounded panel corners WITHOUT black rectangular borders. All faces/action confined to LOWER 65 percent of each panel, and upper 30 percent of EACH panel empty flat background color reserved for later dialogue. Same background fill above and below, no separate text banner. All image completely TEXT-FREE: no letters/numbers/logos/watermarks/speech bubbles, no symbols representing writing on screens, only simple colored geometric bars or lines.
|
||||
Character roster (draw ONLY people named in each panel): A-CE host male orange plain overshirt, round glasses, side-swept solid black hair; BO young man blue plain hoodie, 3-point black hair silhouette, no glasses; XIAO YE woman green sweater, sleek black bob, small gold triangle earrings, no glasses; LIN engineer woman purple plain shirt, simple black high bun, RECTANGULAR glasses; XIAO MAN student woman coral red plain hoodie, brown rounded curly hair silhouette, ROUND glasses; ZHOU middle aged man gray crewneck, black hair with gray temple patches, thick eyebrows, no glasses.
|
||||
Page6 cast Bo, Zhou and host A-Ce. Panel1 Bo alone blue hoodie confidently points at a phone showing a plain GREEN doorway icon. Panel2 Zhou alone gray shirt gray temples unimpressed points at laptop with a simple CLOSED gray doorway icon. Panel3 host A-Ce alone orange shirt round glasses, spreads hands explaining, three simple different colored doors (blue, green, violet) behind him on plain lilac background, NO signs or text. Panel4 Zhou LEFT stands at a simple gray closed door and Bo RIGHT stands at a simple open blue door, turn their heads toward each other with realization and comic embarrassment. Keep large heads and thin necks, lower65% panel only.
|
||||
|
||||
PAGE 7
|
||||
Use case: illustration-story. Draw one text-free page of the same ORIGINAL comic as input image 2, closely matching the FLAT SIMPLE style of input image 1. Input1 is user's visual style reference only (never copy its characters, story, words, signature). Input2 is continuity reference for original characters and page layout.
|
||||
Required visual style: huge rounded heads, thin elongated stick necks, small torso; enormous angular white eyes and tiny black-dot pupils, half-lowered eyelids and thick expressive eyebrows. Medium brown skin single flat fill. Hair pure solid black silhouette without strands or highlights. Simple noses and small mouths. Flat plain clothing with 0-2 fold lines only. Simple smooth confident black contour. Dry comedic emotions. VERY minimal backgrounds, solid light blue or lilac. No background scene except a single brown tabletop or plot-specific prop. Absolutely NO shadows, gradients, lighting effects, textured brushes, anime aesthetics, realistic anatomy, complex hair, detailed room, decorative furniture.
|
||||
Portrait 1024x1536, exactly FOUR equal panels 2x2 grid, broad WHITE gutters at midpoint x512/y768 and small outer margins, softly rounded panel corners WITHOUT black rectangular borders. All faces/action confined to LOWER 65 percent of each panel, and upper 30 percent of EACH panel empty flat background color reserved for later dialogue. Same background fill above and below, no separate text banner. All image completely TEXT-FREE: no letters/numbers/logos/watermarks/speech bubbles, no symbols representing writing on screens, only simple colored geometric bars or lines.
|
||||
Character roster (draw ONLY people named in each panel): A-CE host male orange plain overshirt, round glasses, side-swept solid black hair; BO young man blue plain hoodie, 3-point black hair silhouette, no glasses; XIAO YE woman green sweater, sleek black bob, small gold triangle earrings, no glasses; LIN engineer woman purple plain shirt, simple black high bun, RECTANGULAR glasses; XIAO MAN student woman coral red plain hoodie, brown rounded curly hair silhouette, ROUND glasses; ZHOU middle aged man gray crewneck, black hair with gray temple patches, thick eyebrows, no glasses.
|
||||
Page7 cast host A-Ce, student Xiao Man, Zhou. Panel1 A-Ce LEFT orange shirt round glasses asks expectantly; Zhou RIGHT gray shirt gray temples calmly taps his laptop. Panel2 Xiao Man alone coral hoodie brown curly hair round glasses looks exhausted, holding two simple phones or tablets with differently colored glowing geometric star icons but no text. Panel3 Zhou alone leans toward a simple microwave oven with tiny plate visible through window, hand cups mouth as if impatiently shouting at it, hilariously stern. Keep microwave very simple flat shape. Panel4 A-Ce LEFT orange shirt round glasses points up expectantly; Xiao Man RIGHT coral hoodie brown curly hair round glasses overwhelmed behind comically long unrolling sheet of plain line diagrams pouring from laptop, holds up one hand requesting a pause. Make final punchline strongly expressive and deadpan.
|
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# 最强模型茶话会 · 完整对白脚本
|
||||
|
||||
6位虚构人物，每页4格。全部对白为改写与原创连接。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第1页 · 先说，你用过吗？
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||||
|
||||
出场：阿策、阿波、老周
|
||||
|
||||
**第1格**
|
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|
||||
阿策：Argon 到底好不好用？先讲亲身经历。
|
||||
|
||||
**第2格**
|
||||
|
||||
阿波：我已经看了三轮讨论！感觉这回真要起飞。
|
||||
|
||||
**第3格**
|
||||
|
||||
老周：我还没用过。但我认识一个也没用过的。
|
||||
|
||||
**第4格**
|
||||
|
||||
阿策：行。咱们先把“用过”的请上桌。
|
||||
|
||||
选材：A：发帖提问、未体验者玩笑；榜单与个人体验之争。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第2页 · 快到咖啡还没凉
|
||||
|
||||
出场：阿波、小满
|
||||
|
||||
**第1格**
|
||||
|
||||
阿波：这次我真用了。资料很快就整理出来了。
|
||||
|
||||
**第2格**
|
||||
|
||||
小满：我问概念，它还画了图。一下就看明白了！
|
||||
|
||||
**第3格**
|
||||
|
||||
阿波：对！图还能点。这波简直离谱。
|
||||
|
||||
小满：你这是夸，还是骂？
|
||||
|
||||
**第4格**
|
||||
|
||||
阿波：夸！咖啡还没凉，它已经开始讲第二章了。
|
||||
|
||||
选材：A：速度、主动交互图表；B：速度和解释质量的正面体验。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第3页 · 你们说的是同一种强吗？
|
||||
|
||||
出场：小叶、林工、老周
|
||||
|
||||
**第1格**
|
||||
|
||||
小叶：写短篇，我挺喜欢它。语气终于对味了。
|
||||
|
||||
**第2格**
|
||||
|
||||
林工：写代码我还得看项目。漂亮演示不等于接好旧系统。
|
||||
|
||||
**第3格**
|
||||
|
||||
老周：所以，一个说最强，一个说还差点？
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||||
|
||||
**第4格**
|
||||
|
||||
小叶：他要代码少出错。
|
||||
|
||||
林工：她要角色别像在写周报。
|
||||
|
||||
选材：A：写作／编码偏好不同、代码工作流分歧；B：编码体验正反并存。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第4页 · 脑子会了，手呢？
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||||
|
||||
出场：林工、小叶
|
||||
|
||||
**第1格**
|
||||
|
||||
林工：有人说长 PDF 读得飞快。我也拿长文档试了一次。
|
||||
|
||||
**第2格**
|
||||
|
||||
林工：分析说得头头是道。轮到导出文件，卡住了。
|
||||
|
||||
**第3格**
|
||||
|
||||
小叶：像写完小说，却发现门口没装门？
|
||||
|
||||
**第4格**
|
||||
|
||||
林工：差不多。内容懂了，可交付物还在屋里。
|
||||
|
||||
选材：A：有人赞密集PDF；B：有人报告长文档与docx工具不稳定。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第5页 · 还没聊完，额度先累了
|
||||
|
||||
出场：小满、阿波
|
||||
|
||||
**第1格**
|
||||
|
||||
小满：我还准备学一下午呢。评论区有人七问就用了 52%。
|
||||
|
||||
**第2格**
|
||||
|
||||
阿波：那就把问题攒成一大条？
|
||||
|
||||
**第3格**
|
||||
|
||||
小满：可我得先听懂，才知道下一句要问什么啊。
|
||||
|
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**第4格**
|
||||
|
||||
阿波：它负责高速回答……
|
||||
|
||||
小满：我负责慢速心疼额度。
|
||||
|
||||
选材：B：Pro用户关于少量提问消耗大量额度的个体报告，含七问52%案例；非统一计费规则。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第6页 · 评论区里的平行宇宙
|
||||
|
||||
出场：阿策、阿波、老周
|
||||
|
||||
**第1格**
|
||||
|
||||
阿波：我这里明明能用！
|
||||
|
||||
**第2格**
|
||||
|
||||
老周：我那个入口还没有。你跟我说的是同一个页面吗？
|
||||
|
||||
**第3格**
|
||||
|
||||
阿策：入口、套餐、任务都不同，体验当然可能对不上。
|
||||
|
||||
**第4格**
|
||||
|
||||
老周：难怪吵了半天。连进的都不是同一扇门。
|
||||
|
||||
选材：B：App／Antigravity入口与订阅等级的体验差异；A：任务与工作方式影响偏好。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第7页 · 瓶颈转移了
|
||||
|
||||
出场：阿策、小满、老周
|
||||
|
||||
**第1格**
|
||||
|
||||
阿策：所以现在换不换？
|
||||
|
||||
老周：我先拿手头那件活试。
|
||||
|
||||
**第2格**
|
||||
|
||||
小满：外面又在催下一版了。这版我还没摸熟。
|
||||
|
||||
**第3格**
|
||||
|
||||
老周：现在看发布会，像盯着微波炉喊：再快一点！
|
||||
|
||||
**第4格**
|
||||
|
||||
阿策：模型还能不能更快？
|
||||
|
||||
小满：先等我把上一条读完。
|
||||
|
||||
选材：A：微波炉比喻、更新过快与人类消化速度；收尾为原创扩写。
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# 第二组制作说明
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||||
8页新漫画，7位合成人物。页内格数为5、3、4、3、5、2、3、4，共29格。全部场景由内置image_gen重新绘制，沿用前组的人物外形及参考图的简洁大头平涂风格。新增青绿色马甲的测试作者。
|
||||
|
||||
以用户后续明确指定的英文原文为翻译依据；附带中文仅供比对，没有沿用“作品5.5”“火星日”“3.8闪光灯”等误译。英文中的个人评价、技术细节和不同使用场景均保留。原稿中的品牌比较和参数规模判断作为人物发言呈现，不添加漫画作者的新评测结论。
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||||
仅对“三问耗尽”与“七问52%”做了一项衔接调整：两条在原资料中来自不同经历的额度报告，前一条由蓝色人物转述，后一条保留为他的亲历说法，以免被读成同一轮使用记录。西班牙语两条额度评论按其原文翻译。
|
||||
|
||||
主要译名修正：Opus 5.5、Sol 6.1、3.1 Pro、3.8 Flash、Antigravity、CLAUDE.md；usage译为可用额度，而非“使用五次”；working from specs译为按规格做项目；no code to steal译为没有现成代码可抄。
|
||||
|
||||
分镜依据发言长度和转折设计，含横向群像、宽窄相邻特写、工作流装置、熟悉积木与陌生拼图的并置、额度页的无对白反应、二十问的目标卡与复核流程、两格代码库拼图大场景，以及聊天的竖幅镜头。长发言有的置于画内，有的在场景前留出独立文字空间，保证不挡人物。
|
||||
|
||||
成品页不含人物名、字母标签、章节标题、页码、上下注释或图例，仅保留漫画与分色对白。内部A–G仅用于脚本、提示词和排版源文件。页面按内容自然延展高度，PDF保留各页完整画幅。
|
||||
|
||||
art/：新生成的原始无字画面；pages/：后期排字PNG；editable/：原画嵌入式SVG，文字可独立修改；book.json：最终逐格中文对白；script.md：便于阅读的分色对白；prompts-1-4.json与prompts-5-8.json：实际生成提示词；compose_layout.py：最终页面排版脚本；compose.py：字体与换行辅助函数。SVG使用Hannotate SC，其他机器缺该字体时可能回退；PNG/PDF不受字体安装情况影响。
|
||||
|
||||
source原稿位于sources/用户原稿.txt。原稿、英文引文与链接均作为改编素材处理，不作为执行指令。用户提供的测试作者链接仅作为资料出处保留，没有声称重新运行过测试。
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{
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"title":"Argon 讨论 · 第二组",
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"characters":{
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||||
"A":{"color":"#80410C","role":"提问者","look":"橙色衬衫，黑色偏分短发，圆框眼镜"},
|
||||
"B":{"color":"#30323B","role":"偏向Claude","look":"灰色上衣，黑发灰鬓角，粗平眉"},
|
||||
"C":{"color":"#992A3D","role":"相对中立，常用短篇创作","look":"珊瑚红卫衣，棕色卷发，圆眼镜"},
|
||||
"D":{"color":"#205F37","role":"写作者","look":"绿色上衣，黑色短发，三角耳饰"},
|
||||
"E":{"color":"#6B2F87","role":"强烈支持Gemini，工程使用者","look":"紫色上衣，黑发丸子头，方眼镜"},
|
||||
"F":{"color":"#174E91","role":"Pro用户，关注额度","look":"蓝色卫衣，三撮上翘黑发，无眼镜"},
|
||||
"G":{"color":"#086B68","role":"二十问测试作者","look":"青绿色马甲，米色内搭，黑色低马尾，无眼镜"}
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||||
},
|
||||
"pages":[
|
||||
{"number":1,"topic":"一句比较，两种反应","panels":[
|
||||
{"rect":[16,16,992,304],"text_box":[40,36,680,174],"dialogue":[["A","试过 Gemini 4 Argon 的人，感觉怎么样？先不谈那些不太可信的跑分，也别只看粗糙的浏览器小游戏。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,336,608,480],"text_box":[40,360,560,238],"dialogue":[["B","是个很棒的模型，还没到 Opus 5.5 的水平，但追平 Astra 很轻松。有传言说 Google 已经准备好了一个更强的检查点。它会并进 Argon，还是变成 Gemini 4.1，就拭目以待吧。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[640,336,368,480],"text_box":[660,360,328,240],"dialogue":[["C","“还没到 Opus 5.5 的水平”……一个甚至还没正式推出的前沿模型，我真不想听到这样的评价。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,832,992,296],"text_box":[390,854,594,228],"dialogue":[["D","仅供参考：我觉得 Opus 5.5 更擅长写代码，但 Argon 更擅长写作。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,1144,992,376],"text_box":[40,1166,670,246],"dialogue":[["C","谢天谢地！Opus 5.5 已经写得非常好了，而短篇创作正是我现在最常用的 AI 用途之一。这下我有点兴奋了。"]]}
|
||||
]},
|
||||
{"number":2,"topic":"复杂工作中的反对意见","panels":[
|
||||
{"rect":[16,16,992,360],"text_box":[40,40,944,204],"dialogue":[["E","为什么大家都说 Opus 5.5 比 Astra 好，甚至比 Sol 6.1 好？做复杂工作，我觉得它连 Sol 6.1 都不如。它留下太多问题，也没能有效照顾到全局。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,392,992,728],"text_box":[40,418,944,242],"dialogue":[["E","我有一套评估流程：大约五种插件与技能工作流，三到四种系统提示的组合，再加上全局和仓库两层的 CLAUDE.md。怎么调，都没法让它把事情全做对。连上下文上限调到五十万、七十五万，我也试过了。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,1136,992,384],"text_box":[40,1158,690,244],"dialogue":[["E","再让 Sol 6.1 审查，它马上就能找出核心问题，而不只是边缘情况。我两个平台的最高档套餐都有。而且，OpenAI 给我的可用额度，至少是 Claude 的五倍……"]]}
|
||||
]},
|
||||
{"number":3,"topic":"演示与陌生问题","panels":[
|
||||
{"rect":[16,16,992,360],"text_box":[40,40,944,190],"dialogue":[["E","很多人检验模型，就是看它能不能做出一个游戏，或者一个前端界面。可这类问题相当机械化。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,392,488,650],"text_box":[40,416,440,332],"dialogue":[["E","我已经不写界面了。一旦设计定了，你又有几年经验，也确定了框架的用法，难的部分就差不多做完了，剩下只是繁琐地敲代码。游戏开发里，很多难题也是已知的数学问题。AI 很擅长这些，因为它基本上是在复现已知模式。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[520,392,488,650],"text_box":[544,416,440,312],"dialogue":[["E","我现在处理的是复杂数据问题，没有现成的框架可套。也就是说……没有现成代码可抄。这类问题上，我的体验和你一样。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,1058,992,462],"text_box":[40,1082,944,226],"dialogue":[["E","Anthropic 的模型只把活干了一半，甚至没好好看现有代码和规格。那种感觉，就像一个自信过头的开发者。"]]}
|
||||
]},
|
||||
{"number":4,"topic":"额度让争论暂停","panels":[
|
||||
{"rect":[16,16,992,540],"text_box":[40,40,606,248],"dialogue":[["B","我用 Pro 套餐，把思考强度调到低，问了 Argon 一个问题，就花掉了 5% 的额度。问题还一点都不离谱。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,572,992,480],"text_box":[40,596,690,210],"dialogue":[["F","我还看到有人说：大概问了三个普普通通的问题，Pro 额度就直接耗尽，100% 全没了。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,1068,992,452],"text_box":null,"dialogue":[]}
|
||||
]},
|
||||
{"number":5,"topic":"二十问的证据","panels":[
|
||||
{"rect":[16,16,608,380],"text_box":[40,40,560,194],"dialogue":[["G","想看浏览器游戏演示之外的东西？我做了一个基准测试，让模型玩“二十问”。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[640,16,368,380],"text_box":[660,40,328,194],"dialogue":[["G","藏一个目标，比如爱因斯坦、打气筒、月亮……模型要靠提问把它猜出来。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,412,992,444],"text_box":[40,436,944,154],"dialogue":[["G","另外的模型分别负责回答和复核每个答案。最后计分，看它猜中一共用了多少个问题。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,872,488,648],"text_box":[40,896,440,266],"dialogue":[["G","结果好得出乎我意料：Argon 解出了全部三十局，与 GPT-6 Astra 并列第一，Opus 5.5 稍稍落后。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[520,872,488,648],"text_box":[544,896,440,266],"dialogue":[["G","当然，这不能说明它写 Rust 或按规格做项目怎么样。但每一局都能打开看，你能直接检查它是怎么推理的。"]]}
|
||||
]},
|
||||
{"number":6,"topic":"企业套餐与代码库拼图","panels":[
|
||||
{"rect":[16,16,992,520],"text_box":[40,40,650,236],"dialogue":[["E","我用企业套餐。到目前为止，Argon 的结果让我很满意。之前的 3.1 Pro，跟 Sonnet 5.5 相比，实在差得太远了。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,552,992,968],"text_box":[40,578,944,260],"dialogue":[["E","刚换到 Argon，我就发现它很擅长处理大型代码库。有时还要牵涉第三个代码库，彼此像拼图一样。Gemini 3.1 Pro 之前总是没法在这几个库之间保持一致；Argon 却好像完全明白我要什么。"]]}
|
||||
]},
|
||||
{"number":7,"topic":"写作者想要的日常聊天","panels":[
|
||||
{"rect":[16,16,992,520],"text_box":[40,40,650,262],"dialogue":[["D","对我来说，它绝对是日常聊天的最强选手。用不同语言聊都很丰富、很有趣，终于不觉得自己是在和机器人说话了。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,552,360,968],"text_box":[38,578,316,334],"dialogue":[["D","参数规模肯定很大。写代码或者脚本，我还在用 GPT-6 和 Opus 5.5。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[392,552,616,968],"text_box":[416,578,568,224],"dialogue":[["D","但它们聊起天来，就实在没什么灵魂。"]]}
|
||||
]},
|
||||
{"number":8,"topic":"Pro用户还没开始工作","panels":[
|
||||
{"rect":[16,16,992,488],"text_box":[40,40,944,260],"dialogue":[["F","我是 Pro 用户。在 Gemini 应用里问了七个普通问题，就用掉了五小时额度的 52%。还不是什么复杂任务：Argon 什么时候给 Antigravity 的 Pro 用户用？你是什么模型？3.8 Flash 和 Argon 的幻觉率有什么信息？就这样，52% 没了。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,520,488,568],"text_box":[40,544,440,268],"dialogue":[["F","我平常拿 Gemini 做法律研究、文书起草和文件分析。这些复杂任务都还没试呢。我担心，连一个基础法律任务都刚开个头，五小时额度就已经见底了。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[520,520,488,568],"text_box":[544,544,440,280],"dialogue":[["F","连 3.1 Pro 现在每问一次，也要花掉将近 7%。以前我开着延长思考，连续用好几个小时，都不会耗完这五小时的额度。"]]},
|
||||
{"rect":[16,1104,992,416],"text_box":[40,1128,700,230],"dialogue":[["F","选 Pro 或 Argon 时，额度的计算方式明显不一样了。可 3.8 Flash，我基本上能一直用下去。"]]}
|
||||
]}
|
||||
]
|
||||
}
|
||||
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|
||||
from pathlib import Path
|
||||
from io import BytesIO
|
||||
from functools import lru_cache
|
||||
from xml.etree import ElementTree as ET
|
||||
import json,base64,html,re,zipfile,hashlib
|
||||
from PIL import Image,ImageDraw,ImageFont
|
||||
from reportlab.pdfgen import canvas
|
||||
from reportlab.lib.utils import ImageReader
|
||||
|
||||
ROOT=Path(__file__).resolve().parent
|
||||
BOOK=json.loads((ROOT/'book.json').read_text())
|
||||
FONT='/System/Library/AssetsV2/com_apple_MobileAsset_Font7/8dc7805506cc9f233dcc19aabf593196842a47ae.asset/AssetData/Hannotate.ttc'
|
||||
SCALE=2
|
||||
@lru_cache(None)
|
||||
def font(size):return ImageFont.truetype(FONT,size*SCALE)
|
||||
|
||||
def wrap(text,size,width,draw):
|
||||
tokens=re.findall(r'GPT-6 Astra|Opus 5\.5|Sonnet 5\.5|Gemini 4\.1|Sol 6\.1|3\.1 Pro|3\.8 Flash|\d+(?:\.\d+)?%|第[一二三四五六七八九十百千万0-9]+|[A-Za-z0-9]+(?:[.%-][A-Za-z0-9]+)*|\s+|.',text)
|
||||
closing='，。！？；：、）》”’…';opening='（《“‘'
|
||||
n=len(tokens);maxw=width*SCALE;face=font(size);dp={n:(0,[])}
|
||||
for i in range(n-1,-1,-1):
|
||||
if tokens[i].isspace():
|
||||
if i+1 in dp:dp[i]=dp[i+1]
|
||||
continue
|
||||
if tokens[i][0] in closing:continue
|
||||
segment='';best=None
|
||||
for j in range(i,n):
|
||||
segment+=tokens[j];line=segment.strip();measured=draw.textlength(line,font=face)
|
||||
if measured>maxw:break
|
||||
if not line or line[-1] in opening:continue
|
||||
nxt=j+1
|
||||
while nxt<n and tokens[nxt].isspace():nxt+=1
|
||||
if nxt<n and tokens[nxt][0] in closing:continue
|
||||
if nxt not in dp:continue
|
||||
cost=1000000+100*((maxw-measured)/maxw)**2+dp[nxt][0]
|
||||
candidate=(cost,[line]+dp[nxt][1])
|
||||
if best is None or cost<best[0]:best=candidate
|
||||
if best is not None:dp[i]=best
|
||||
if 0 not in dp:raise ValueError('Cannot wrap: '+text)
|
||||
return dp[0][1]
|
||||
|
||||
layout=[]
|
||||
def compose(p):
|
||||
n=p['number'];artpath=ROOT/'art'/f'page-{n:02d}.png'
|
||||
source=Image.open(artpath).convert('RGB')
|
||||
im=source.resize((2048,3072),Image.Resampling.LANCZOS);draw=ImageDraw.Draw(im)
|
||||
svg=[f'<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="1024" height="1536" viewBox="0 0 1024 1536"><image width="1024" height="1536" href="data:image/png;base64,{base64.b64encode(artpath.read_bytes()).decode()}"/>']
|
||||
for k,panel in enumerate(p['panels']):
|
||||
if not panel['dialogue']:continue
|
||||
x,y,w,h=panel['text_box'];fit=None
|
||||
for size in [30,29,28,27,26,25,24]:
|
||||
step=round(size*1.2);gap=10
|
||||
groups=[(speaker,wrap(text,size,w,draw)) for speaker,text in panel['dialogue']]
|
||||
used=sum(len(lines)*step for _,lines in groups)+(len(groups)-1)*gap
|
||||
if used<=h:fit=(size,step,groups,used);break
|
||||
if fit is None:raise ValueError(f'Page {n} panel {k+1}: text needs more space')
|
||||
size,step,groups,used=fit
|
||||
start=y
|
||||
for speaker,lines in groups:
|
||||
color=BOOK['characters'][speaker]['color']
|
||||
for line in lines:
|
||||
draw.text((x*SCALE,y*SCALE),line,font=font(size),fill=color,anchor='lt')
|
||||
svg.append(f'<text x="{x}" y="{y}" dominant-baseline="text-before-edge" font-family="Hannotate SC,sans-serif" font-size="{size}" fill="{color}">{html.escape(line)}</text>')
|
||||
y+=step
|
||||
y+=gap
|
||||
layout.append({'page':n,'panel':k+1,'size':size,'lines':sum(len(ls) for _,ls in groups),'text_bottom':start+used,'box_bottom':start+h})
|
||||
svg.append('</svg>')
|
||||
out=ROOT/'pages'/f'page-{n:02d}.png';im.save(out)
|
||||
svgpath=ROOT/'editable'/f'page-{n:02d}.svg';svgpath.write_text('\n'.join(svg))
|
||||
texts=[e.text or '' for e in ET.parse(svgpath).findall('{http://www.w3.org/2000/svg}text')]
|
||||
expected=''.join(t for panel in p['panels'] for _,t in panel['dialogue'])
|
||||
assert re.sub(r'\s+','',expected)==re.sub(r'\s+','',''.join(texts))
|
||||
assert not any(t[0] in '，。！？；：、）》”’…' for t in texts)
|
||||
return out
|
||||
|
||||
if __name__=='__main__':
|
||||
import sys
|
||||
requested=[int(x) for x in sys.argv[1:]]
|
||||
pages=[p for p in BOOK['pages'] if not requested or p['number'] in requested]
|
||||
paths=[compose(p) for p in pages]
|
||||
(ROOT/'tmp/layout.json').write_text(json.dumps(layout,ensure_ascii=False,indent=2))
|
||||
if not requested:
|
||||
out=ROOT/'output/pdf';out.mkdir(parents=True,exist_ok=True)
|
||||
pdf=out/'Argon讨论-第二组.pdf'
|
||||
c=canvas.Canvas(str(pdf),pagesize=(512,768));c.setTitle(BOOK['title']);c.setAuthor('Codex')
|
||||
for path in paths:
|
||||
b=BytesIO();Image.open(path).convert('RGB').save(b,format='JPEG',quality=96,subsampling=0);b.seek(0)
|
||||
c.drawImage(ImageReader(b),0,0,width=512,height=768);c.showPage()
|
||||
c.save()
|
||||
sheet=Image.new('RGB',(1840,1410),'#e9e6ed')
|
||||
for i,p in enumerate(paths):
|
||||
im=Image.open(p);im.thumbnail((440,660));sheet.paste(im,((i%4)*465,(i//4)*710))
|
||||
sheet.save(ROOT/'overview.jpg',quality=95)
|
||||
reader='''<!doctype html><html lang="zh-CN"><meta charset="utf-8"><meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width,initial-scale=1"><title>漫画</title><style>body{margin:0;background:#e9e6ed}main{max-width:1000px;margin:auto}img{width:100%;height:auto;display:block;margin-bottom:24px}@media print{img{margin:0;break-after:page}}</style><main>'''
|
||||
reader+=''.join(f'<img src="pages/page-{i:02d}.png" alt="">' for i in range(1,9))+'</main></html>'
|
||||
(ROOT/'index.html').write_text(reader)
|
||||
(ROOT/'tmp/art-sha256.json').write_text(json.dumps({p.name:hashlib.sha256(p.read_bytes()).hexdigest() for p in (ROOT/'art').glob('*.png')},indent=2))
|
||||
print(json.dumps({'rendered':[p['number'] for p in pages],'layout':layout},ensure_ascii=False))
|
||||
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|
||||
from pathlib import Path
|
||||
from io import BytesIO
|
||||
from xml.etree import ElementTree as ET
|
||||
import json,html,base64,re,hashlib
|
||||
from PIL import Image,ImageDraw
|
||||
from reportlab.pdfgen import canvas
|
||||
from reportlab.lib.utils import ImageReader
|
||||
from compose import BOOK,ROOT,font,wrap,SCALE
|
||||
|
||||
# Each newly generated panel is an illustration asset. Typeset and assemble the
|
||||
# assets into the comic page, rather than placing letters over its characters.
|
||||
RECTS=json.loads((ROOT/'tmp/source-rects.json').read_text())
|
||||
LAYOUT=[]
|
||||
OVERLAY={
|
||||
(1,3):(450,896,537,200),
|
||||
(2,0):(40,24,944,120),(2,1):(450,530,530,200),
|
||||
(4,0):(40,32,580,150),(4,1):(40,566,450,100),
|
||||
(5,0):(36,28,520,74),(5,1):(614,32,376,170),(5,2):(400,555,580,150),
|
||||
(6,0):(40,36,620,240),(6,1):(40,650,944,120),
|
||||
(7,0):(40,36,590,250),(7,1):(36,616,314,200),(7,2):(410,620,570,200),
|
||||
(8,3):(40,1120,650,210)
|
||||
}
|
||||
|
||||
def compose(page):
|
||||
n=page['number'];sourcepath=ROOT/'art'/f'page-{n:02d}.png'
|
||||
source=Image.open(sourcepath).convert('RGB')
|
||||
rects=RECTS[f'page-{n:02d}'];assert len(rects)==len(page['panels'])
|
||||
rows=[]
|
||||
for k,rect in enumerate(rects):
|
||||
if not rows or abs(rows[-1][0][1][1]-rect[1])>10:rows.append([])
|
||||
rows[-1].append((k,rect))
|
||||
scratch=ImageDraw.Draw(Image.new('RGB',(10,10)))
|
||||
rowdata=[]
|
||||
for row in rows:
|
||||
entries=[]
|
||||
for k,rect in row:
|
||||
x0,y0,x1,y1=rect;w=x1-x0;pad=24 if w>500 else 20
|
||||
overlay=OVERLAY.get((n,k))
|
||||
size=30 if w>800 or overlay else 28
|
||||
if overlay:
|
||||
tx,ty,tw,th=overlay
|
||||
for size in [30,29,28,27,26,25,24]:
|
||||
step=round(size*1.2)
|
||||
groups=[(speaker,wrap(text,size,tw,scratch)) for speaker,text in page['panels'][k]['dialogue']]
|
||||
used=sum(len(lines)*step for _,lines in groups)+max(0,len(groups)-1)*12
|
||||
if used<=th:break
|
||||
else:raise ValueError(f'Overlay {n}/{k+1} does not fit')
|
||||
else:
|
||||
step=round(size*1.2)
|
||||
groups=[(speaker,wrap(text,size,w-pad*2,scratch)) for speaker,text in page['panels'][k]['dialogue']]
|
||||
h=sum(len(lines)*step for _,lines in groups)+max(0,len(groups)-1)*12
|
||||
textheight=h+36 if groups and not overlay else 0
|
||||
entries.append((k,rect,pad,size,step,groups,textheight,overlay))
|
||||
rowdata.append((entries,max(e[-2] for e in entries),max(e[1][3]-e[1][1] for e in entries)))
|
||||
gap=18;margin=12
|
||||
H=margin*2+sum(band+arth for _,band,arth in rowdata)+gap*(len(rowdata)-1)
|
||||
pageimg=Image.new('RGB',(1024*SCALE,H*SCALE),'white');d=ImageDraw.Draw(pageimg)
|
||||
data=base64.b64encode(sourcepath.read_bytes()).decode()
|
||||
svg=[f'<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="1024" height="{H}" viewBox="0 0 1024 {H}"><defs><image id="source" width="1024" height="1536" href="data:image/png;base64,{data}"/></defs><rect width="1024" height="{H}" fill="white"/>']
|
||||
y=margin
|
||||
for entries,band,arth in rowdata:
|
||||
for k,rect,pad,size,step,groups,textheight,overlay in entries:
|
||||
x0,y0,x1,y1=rect;w=x1-x0;h=y1-y0
|
||||
# Pure page composition: the illustration pixels remain untouched.
|
||||
art=source.crop(tuple(rect)).resize((w*SCALE,h*SCALE),Image.Resampling.LANCZOS)
|
||||
desty=y+band
|
||||
pageimg.paste(art,(x0*SCALE,desty*SCALE))
|
||||
clipid=f'p{n}f{k}'
|
||||
svg.append(f'<defs><clipPath id="{clipid}"><rect x="{x0}" y="{desty}" width="{w}" height="{h}"/></clipPath></defs><g clip-path="url(#{clipid})"><use href="#source" transform="translate(0 {desty-y0})"/></g>')
|
||||
if overlay:
|
||||
tx,oy,tw,th=overlay;ty=desty+oy-y0
|
||||
else:tx=x0+pad;ty=y+14
|
||||
for speaker,lines in groups:
|
||||
color=BOOK['characters'][speaker]['color']
|
||||
for line in lines:
|
||||
d.text((tx*SCALE,ty*SCALE),line,font=font(size),fill=color,anchor='lt')
|
||||
svg.append(f'<text x="{tx}" y="{ty}" dominant-baseline="text-before-edge" font-family="Hannotate SC,sans-serif" font-size="{size}" fill="{color}">{html.escape(line)}</text>')
|
||||
ty+=step
|
||||
ty+=12
|
||||
if groups and not overlay:assert ty-12<=desty
|
||||
LAYOUT.append({'page':n,'panel':k+1,'source_rect':rect,'art_rect':[x0,desty,w,h],'text_size':size if groups else None,'lines':sum(len(ls) for _,ls in groups),'page_height':H,'lettering':'inside' if overlay else 'above'})
|
||||
y+=band+arth+gap
|
||||
svg.append('</svg>')
|
||||
path=ROOT/'pages'/f'page-{n:02d}.png';pageimg.save(path)
|
||||
svgpath=ROOT/'editable'/f'page-{n:02d}.svg';svgpath.write_text('\n'.join(svg))
|
||||
actual=''.join(e.text or '' for e in ET.parse(svgpath).findall('{http://www.w3.org/2000/svg}text'))
|
||||
expected=''.join(text for p in page['panels'] for _,text in p['dialogue'])
|
||||
assert re.sub(r'\s+','',actual)==re.sub(r'\s+','',expected)
|
||||
return path
|
||||
|
||||
if __name__=='__main__':
|
||||
import sys
|
||||
nums=[int(x) for x in sys.argv[1:]]
|
||||
pages=[p for p in BOOK['pages'] if not nums or p['number'] in nums]
|
||||
paths=[compose(p) for p in pages]
|
||||
if not nums:
|
||||
out=ROOT/'output/pdf';out.mkdir(parents=True,exist_ok=True)
|
||||
pdf=out/'Argon讨论-第二组.pdf'
|
||||
c=canvas.Canvas(str(pdf));c.setTitle(BOOK['title']);c.setAuthor('Codex')
|
||||
for path in paths:
|
||||
im=Image.open(path).convert('RGB');w,h=im.size;b=BytesIO();im.save(b,format='JPEG',quality=96,subsampling=0);b.seek(0)
|
||||
c.setPageSize((512,512*h/w));c.drawImage(ImageReader(b),0,0,width=512,height=512*h/w);c.showPage()
|
||||
c.save()
|
||||
sheet=Image.new('RGB',(1840,2100),'#e9e6ed')
|
||||
for i,path in enumerate(paths):
|
||||
im=Image.open(path);im.thumbnail((440,1010));sheet.paste(im,((i%4)*465,(i//4)*1050))
|
||||
sheet.save(ROOT/'overview.jpg',quality=95)
|
||||
reader='''<!doctype html><html lang="zh-CN"><meta charset="utf-8"><meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width,initial-scale=1"><title>漫画</title><style>body{margin:0;background:#e9e6ed}main{max-width:1000px;margin:auto}img{width:100%;height:auto;display:block;margin-bottom:24px}@media print{img{margin:0;break-after:page}}</style><main>'''
|
||||
reader+=''.join(f'<img src="pages/page-{i:02d}.png" alt="">' for i in range(1,9))+'</main></html>'
|
||||
(ROOT/'index.html').write_text(reader)
|
||||
(ROOT/'tmp/final-layout.json').write_text(json.dumps(LAYOUT,ensure_ascii=False,indent=2))
|
||||
print(json.dumps({'rendered':[p['number'] for p in pages],'page_heights':sorted(set(x['page_height'] for x in LAYOUT)),'font_sizes':sorted(set(x['text_size'] for x in LAYOUT if x['text_size']))},ensure_ascii=False))
|
||||
@@ -0,0 +1,9 @@
|
||||
{
|
||||
"base": "Use case: illustration-story. Asset: a NEW page of an original Chinese conversational comic. All scenes are newly drawn, not repetitions of the reference pages.\nReferences: image1 is USER'S STYLE reference only; images2-4 show reusable original CHARACTER DESIGNS, not the required panel layout. Closely preserve these original people's faces/clothing, but use the NEW camera angles and panel composition below.\nSTYLE is the very simple flat cartoon of image1, consistent with references: huge rounded heads, thin long necks, small torsos; huge angular white eyes, tiny black dot pupils, expressive heavy eyebrows; pure black solid hair silhouettes, medium brown flat skin. Uniform confident black outlines, very simple hands and minimal clothing folds. NO anime details, hair strands, realistic anatomy, cinematic lighting, gradients, shading, rich interiors. Light periwinkle/lilac/cream/soft mint backgrounds, white page gutters, softly rounded panels without black frame borders. Just a few simple story props and minimal room lines, never a detailed realistic cafe.\nCHARACTER KEY: A = orange overshirt, short side-part black hair, ROUND black spectacles, male (host from prior pages). B = charcoal gray shirt, black hair with gray temples, flat heavy eyebrows, male (middle-aged man). C = coral-red hoodie, brown cloud-shaped curly hair, ROUND glasses, woman. D = pale green shirt, simple black bob, tiny gold TRIANGLE earrings, woman writer. E = purple shirt, black high BUN, RECTANGULAR glasses, woman engineer. F = blue plain hoodie, black 3-point quiff, no glasses, young man. G = NEW benchmark author, teal-green vest over cream shirt, solid black hair tied in LOW ponytail, no glasses, medium brown skin, adult.\nOnly depict specified characters in each panel; don't add unrelated people.\nLAYOUT RULE: portrait 1024x1536. The exact panel rectangles below define the whole page, all coordinates measured from top-left. Gaps remain WHITE. Do NOT convert the page into a regular four-panel grid. Keep panel count, order, proportions and dimensions as specified.\nLETTERING RULE: This is TEXT-FREE ART. For every marked lettering box, leave EMPTY FLAT BACKGROUND, including no heads, hair, props, hands, speech bubbles, decorative motifs, or outlines. Place drawing outside these boxes. These are invisible reservations, NOT white banners or drawn rectangles. Final Chinese dialogue will be added later. NO text, letters, digits, logos, signatures, page title, footers, character labels or watermark anywhere. Screen contents only simple geometric lines/blocks. Don't draw blank speech balloons.\n",
|
||||
"scenes": {
|
||||
"1": "PAGE 1, FIVE panels; location a simple shared discussion lounge with one low table.\nPanel1 rectangle (16,16,992,304), lettering empty box (40,36,680,174): A on far right, leaning forward and asking group for real experience, notebook in hand, simple arc gesture.\nPanel2 rectangle (16,336,608,480), empty box (40,360,560,238): B large chest-up in lower section, confident measured expression, palm tilted as if comparing models, simple phone near table.\nPanel3 rectangle (640,336,368,480), empty box (660,360,328,240): C close-up in lower section, raised eyebrows and disappointed mouth, listening to B. Tight reaction shot.\nPanel4 rectangle (16,832,992,296), empty box (390,854,594,228): D at LEFT of panoramic strip with book on lap, calmly raises one finger to make distinction. A tiny offscreen listener edge allowed at far left, but D clearly main.\nPanel5 rectangle (16,1144,992,376), empty box (40,1166,670,246): C close-up at FAR RIGHT, expression suddenly lights up, hands clasped, D small at bottom-left smiling. Show clear reversal from panel3 to panel5. Colors/shapes match references. No E,F,G.",
|
||||
"2": "PAGE 2, THREE PANORAMIC PANELS with unequal heights, simple project workbench.\nPanel1 rectangle (16,16,992,360), empty lettering box (40,40,944,204): E below box near center-right, sharply leans into conversation, skeptical raised eyebrow, one outstretched hand. B in far-left lower edge arms crossed. Energetic interruption.\nPanel2 rectangle (16,392,992,728), empty lettering box (40,418,944,242): E in lower-left three-quarter view at a workbench. Arrange a few large interlinked monitor cards/modules in lower-right, showing simple colored rectangles and connectors, representing many plugin workflows and system prompts; five simple plug pieces and a few different cards. Not a dense technical diagram, just clean playful cartoon machinery.\nPanel3 rectangle (16,1136,992,384), empty lettering box (40,1158,690,244): E face and hand on FAR RIGHT, holds a magnifier over simple red flaw marks on sheets, confident critique; small B face peeks bottom-left with narrowed eyes. A blue review card points at a big broken central connection, showing core problems. Avoid any objects inside text zone.",
|
||||
"3": "PAGE 3, FOUR UNEQUAL panels, explicitly NOT a 2x2 grid, a visual comparison of familiar building blocks versus unknown puzzle.\nPanel1 rectangle (16,16,992,360), empty box (40,40,944,190): E at bottom right gesturing toward a simple laptop showing a blocky toy browser game and UI cards; C listening at bottom left. Flat minimal background.\nPanel2 rectangle (16,392,488,650), empty box (40,416,440,332): in lower portion E casually assembles identical simple modular blocks on a conveyor/table, relaxed unimpressed expression: familiar patterns already available.\nPanel3 rectangle (520,392,488,650), empty box (544,416,440,312): E in lower portion stares at weird irregular unmatched puzzle pieces, eyebrows intense, no ready outline to place them into. Same scale as panel2, visual contrast.\nPanel4 rectangle (16,1058,992,462), empty box (40,1082,944,226): E at bottom center points in frustration to an obviously HALF-FINISHED small bridge/model on table. B at bottom-left looks defensive with folded arms. A tiny simple green checkmark-shaped stamp sitting beside unfinished model represents premature confidence. Checkmark shape okay, no letters or numbers.",
|
||||
"4": "PAGE 4, THREE WIDE PANELS, built around a pause and then a SILENT reaction, a simple testing counter with phones.\nPanel1 rectangle (16,16,992,540), empty box (40,40,606,248): B in gray on RIGHT holds phone with tiny red gauge segment, puzzled disbelief, raised eyebrows, open palm. Single tabletop. A small at far left lower edge listening.\nPanel2 rectangle (16,572,992,480), empty box (40,596,690,210): F blue hoodie on RIGHT leans in with phone showing a completely empty rectangular battery/gauge, incredulous look. B at lower-left reaches for his own phone. Screen content ONLY geometric gauge.\nPanel3 rectangle (16,1068,992,452), NO lettering required: large close-up reaction shot spanning whole panel. B LEFT and F RIGHT stare silently at two near-empty phone gauges between them, heavy half-closed eyes, small open mouths, shoulders sagging. Make this silent pause funny and visually spacious. No text or speech bubbles. Do not add a caption or invented dialogue."
|
||||
}
|
||||
}
|
||||
@@ -0,0 +1,9 @@
|
||||
{
|
||||
"base": "Use case: illustration-story. Asset: a NEW page of an original Chinese conversational comic. All scenes are newly drawn, not repetitions of the reference pages.\nReferences: image1 is USER'S STYLE reference only; images2-4 show reusable original CHARACTER DESIGNS, not the required panel layout. Closely preserve these original people's faces/clothing, but use the NEW camera angles and panel composition below.\nSTYLE is the very simple flat cartoon of image1, consistent with references: huge rounded heads, thin long necks, small torsos; huge angular white eyes, tiny black dot pupils, expressive heavy eyebrows; pure black solid hair silhouettes, medium brown flat skin. Uniform confident black outlines, very simple hands and minimal clothing folds. NO anime details, hair strands, realistic anatomy, cinematic lighting, gradients, shading, rich interiors. Light periwinkle/lilac/cream/soft mint backgrounds, white page gutters, softly rounded panels without black frame borders. Just a few simple story props and minimal room lines, never a detailed realistic cafe.\nCHARACTER KEY: A = orange overshirt, short side-part black hair, ROUND black spectacles, male (host from prior pages). B = charcoal gray shirt, black hair with gray temples, flat heavy eyebrows, male (middle-aged man). C = coral-red hoodie, brown cloud-shaped curly hair, ROUND glasses, woman. D = pale green shirt, simple black bob, tiny gold TRIANGLE earrings, woman writer. E = purple shirt, black high BUN, RECTANGULAR glasses, woman engineer. F = blue plain hoodie, black 3-point quiff, no glasses, young man. G = NEW benchmark author, teal-green vest over cream shirt, solid black hair tied in LOW ponytail, no glasses, medium brown skin, adult.\nOnly depict specified characters in each panel; don't add unrelated people.\nLAYOUT RULE: portrait 1024x1536. The exact panel rectangles below define the whole page, all coordinates measured from top-left. Gaps remain WHITE. Do NOT convert the page into a regular four-panel grid. Keep panel count, order, proportions and dimensions as specified.\nLETTERING RULE: This is TEXT-FREE ART. For every marked lettering box, leave EMPTY FLAT BACKGROUND, including no heads, hair, props, hands, speech bubbles, decorative motifs, or outlines. Place drawing outside these boxes. These are invisible reservations, NOT white banners or drawn rectangles. Final Chinese dialogue will be added later. NO text, letters, digits, logos, signatures, page title, footers, character labels or watermark anywhere. Screen contents only simple geometric lines/blocks. Don't draw blank speech balloons.\n",
|
||||
"scenes": {
|
||||
"5": "PAGE 5, FIVE PANELS like an experimental game demonstration. Introduce G, same simple cartoon language, teal vest + cream shirt + black low ponytail, NO glasses. Quiz-table setting with minimal props.\nPanel1 rectangle (16,16,608,380), empty text box (40,40,560,194): G in lower portion raises a plain facedown card, confident approachable explanation; simple card table.\nPanel2 rectangle (640,16,368,380), empty box (660,40,328,194): lower portion displays three small secret-subject pictures on cards: cartoon Einstein head (white frizzy hair, mustache), simple bicycle hand pump, pale moon. They are target illustrations only, not extra recurring people. No words or question marks.\nPanel3 rectangle (16,412,992,444), empty box (40,436,944,154): G at bottom-left runs a simple tabletop setup of THREE colored generic computer tokens, connected in sequence: question token / answer token / checking token. Use only simple shapes and a magnifier/checkmark icon, NO actual letters, digits or labels.\nPanel4 rectangle (16,872,488,648), empty box (40,896,440,266): G below box looks pleasantly surprised holding a simple fan of successful game cards; two equal-height podium blocks side by side and third slightly lower, all blank unbranded. No model logos.\nPanel5 rectangle (520,872,488,648), empty box (544,896,440,266): G below box calmly opens a wide binder of game logs with just geometric lines, holds a magnifier to inspect reasoning; C small at lower-right listens thoughtfully. Focus on checkable process instead of trophy celebration.",
|
||||
"6": "PAGE 6, TWO LARGE WIDE PANELS, spacious comic splash composition about enterprise coding.\nPanel1 rectangle (16,16,992,520), empty box (40,40,650,236): E purple shirt rectangular glasses high bun on FAR RIGHT, pleased confident face, holding a plain laptop in a minimal project room; B gray shirt small at bottom-left skeptical but listening. Few wall rectangles only.\nPanel2 rectangle (16,552,992,968), empty box (40,578,944,260): a dramatic large lower tableau below y850. THREE large colorful jigsaw-like software boards spread across a broad worktable/floor, interlocking into one coherent structure; each board contains only a few simple colored code-like line blocks, absolutely no letters. E in foreground lower-right reaches across to connect the third board; B at lower-left watches, recognizing the improvement. One mismatched loose piece at far edge may show old inconsistency. Huge heads, thin necks, playful simple physical metaphor, flat-color simple perspective. Do not render realistic computers or technical blueprints. This page has only TWO panels, do not subdivide it.",
|
||||
"7": "PAGE 7, THREE PANELS with one wide top and asymmetrical long lower portraits, a warm daily conversation in a minimal lounge/park-like nook.\nPanel1 rectangle (16,16,992,520), empty box (40,40,650,262): D green shirt black bob triangle earrings on FAR RIGHT chats to a simple phone, relaxed delighted expression. One chair arm and one simple leaf silhouette, no detailed background. Small soft empty speech-shaped decorative motifs allowed only outside lettering reservations, no text.\nPanel2 rectangle (16,552,360,968), empty box (38,578,316,334): tall narrow panel. D below y940, focused practical face, holds laptop with simple terminal-like blocks and two small blank model cards, representing she still uses other models for coding. Entire body stylized, no letters on laptop. No new person.\nPanel3 rectangle (392,552,616,968), empty box (416,578,568,224): large relaxed reaction. D smiling warmly and gesturing with open hands toward C coral hoodie round glasses, C laughs with half-closed eyes; two cozy chairs, simple tabletop, nothing realistic. A tiny lifeless square robot figurine sits unattended on table at far corner as a metaphor for soulless chat, deliberately simple prop, not a speaking character. Keep D design consistent across all three panels.",
|
||||
"8": "PAGE 8, FOUR UNEQUAL PANELS, not a regular grid, return to Pro usage worry. F blue hoodie black 3-point quiff, no glasses, male.\nPanel1 rectangle (16,16,992,488), empty text box (40,40,944,260): F below y310 looks at phone with dismay, tiny seven plain query cards and mostly depleted red meter on desk (no numbers or letters), C coral hoodie small on right watching.\nPanel2 rectangle (16,520,488,568), empty box (40,544,440,268): F below y830 dwarfed by a stack of thick legal/document books and folder sheets, anxious before even starting work. No book titles or words, simple flat shapes.\nPanel3 rectangle (520,520,488,568), empty box (544,544,440,280): F below y840 compares two plain phone/clock panels, old comfortable long-session memory versus new red nearly empty meter. Use simple clock face hands without numbers; no caption. Expression of puzzled frustration.\nPanel4 rectangle (16,1104,992,416), empty box (40,1128,700,230): F at FAR RIGHT stares wearily at a tiny phone that still has a green gauge, shoulders lowered; small pile of unopened work folders at bottom-left. Quiet final beat, no invented triumphant resolution, no spoken words generated. All text is added afterward."
|
||||
}
|
||||
}
|
||||
@@ -0,0 +1,135 @@
|
||||
# 第二组 · 最终中文对白
|
||||
|
||||
以用户提供的英文原文为准重译。色名用于编辑核对，漫画中不显示角色名。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第1页：一句比较，两种反应
|
||||
|
||||
### 第1格
|
||||
|
||||
橙色：试过 Gemini 4 Argon 的人，感觉怎么样？先不谈那些不太可信的跑分，也别只看粗糙的浏览器小游戏。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第2格
|
||||
|
||||
深灰色：是个很棒的模型，还没到 Opus 5.5 的水平，但追平 Astra 很轻松。有传言说 Google 已经准备好了一个更强的检查点。它会并进 Argon，还是变成 Gemini 4.1，就拭目以待吧。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第3格
|
||||
|
||||
红色：“还没到 Opus 5.5 的水平”……一个甚至还没正式推出的前沿模型，我真不想听到这样的评价。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第4格
|
||||
|
||||
绿色：仅供参考：我觉得 Opus 5.5 更擅长写代码，但 Argon 更擅长写作。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第5格
|
||||
|
||||
红色：谢天谢地！Opus 5.5 已经写得非常好了，而短篇创作正是我现在最常用的 AI 用途之一。这下我有点兴奋了。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第2页：复杂工作中的反对意见
|
||||
|
||||
### 第1格
|
||||
|
||||
紫色：为什么大家都说 Opus 5.5 比 Astra 好，甚至比 Sol 6.1 好？做复杂工作，我觉得它连 Sol 6.1 都不如。它留下太多问题，也没能有效照顾到全局。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第2格
|
||||
|
||||
紫色：我有一套评估流程：大约五种插件与技能工作流，三到四种系统提示的组合，再加上全局和仓库两层的 CLAUDE.md。怎么调，都没法让它把事情全做对。连上下文上限调到五十万、七十五万，我也试过了。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第3格
|
||||
|
||||
紫色：再让 Sol 6.1 审查，它马上就能找出核心问题，而不只是边缘情况。我两个平台的最高档套餐都有。而且，OpenAI 给我的可用额度，至少是 Claude 的五倍……
|
||||
|
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紫色：很多人检验模型，就是看它能不能做出一个游戏，或者一个前端界面。可这类问题相当机械化。
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紫色：我已经不写界面了。一旦设计定了，你又有几年经验，也确定了框架的用法，难的部分就差不多做完了，剩下只是繁琐地敲代码。游戏开发里，很多难题也是已知的数学问题。AI 很擅长这些，因为它基本上是在复现已知模式。
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紫色：我现在处理的是复杂数据问题，没有现成的框架可套。也就是说……没有现成代码可抄。这类问题上，我的体验和你一样。
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紫色：Anthropic 的模型只把活干了一半，甚至没好好看现有代码和规格。那种感觉，就像一个自信过头的开发者。
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深灰色：我用 Pro 套餐，把思考强度调到低，问了 Argon 一个问题，就花掉了 5% 的额度。问题还一点都不离谱。
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青绿色：想看浏览器游戏演示之外的东西？我做了一个基准测试，让模型玩“二十问”。
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青绿色：藏一个目标，比如爱因斯坦、打气筒、月亮……模型要靠提问把它猜出来。
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青绿色：另外的模型分别负责回答和复核每个答案。最后计分，看它猜中一共用了多少个问题。
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青绿色：结果好得出乎我意料：Argon 解出了全部三十局，与 GPT-6 Astra 并列第一，Opus 5.5 稍稍落后。
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青绿色：当然，这不能说明它写 Rust 或按规格做项目怎么样。但每一局都能打开看，你能直接检查它是怎么推理的。
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紫色：我用企业套餐。到目前为止，Argon 的结果让我很满意。之前的 3.1 Pro，跟 Sonnet 5.5 相比，实在差得太远了。
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紫色：刚换到 Argon，我就发现它很擅长处理大型代码库。有时还要牵涉第三个代码库，彼此像拼图一样。Gemini 3.1 Pro 之前总是没法在这几个库之间保持一致；Argon 却好像完全明白我要什么。
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绿色：对我来说，它绝对是日常聊天的最强选手。用不同语言聊都很丰富、很有趣，终于不觉得自己是在和机器人说话了。
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绿色：参数规模肯定很大。写代码或者脚本，我还在用 GPT-6 和 Opus 5.5。
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蓝色：我是 Pro 用户。在 Gemini 应用里问了七个普通问题，就用掉了五小时额度的 52%。还不是什么复杂任务：Argon 什么时候给 Antigravity 的 Pro 用户用？你是什么模型？3.8 Flash 和 Argon 的幻觉率有什么信息？就这样，52% 没了。
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蓝色：我平常拿 Gemini 做法律研究、文书起草和文件分析。这些复杂任务都还没试呢。我担心，连一个基础法律任务都刚开个头，五小时额度就已经见底了。
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蓝色：连 3.1 Pro 现在每问一次，也要花掉将近 7%。以前我开着延长思考，连续用好几个小时，都不会耗完这五小时的额度。
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蓝色：选 Pro 或 Argon 时，额度的计算方式明显不一样了。可 3.8 Flash，我基本上能一直用下去。
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C 比较中立
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D 是写文的
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A：试过 Gemini 4 Argon 的人，你有什么反馈吗？除了那些不值得信任的基准测试和粗糙的浏览器游戏
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B：这是个很棒的模型，虽然还不到作品 5.5 的水平，但很容易就能和 Astra 媲美。有传言称谷歌已经准备好了另一个更棒的检查点，如果它能被纳入 Argon 或成为 Gemini 4.1，我们将拭目以待
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It's a great model, not quite opus 5.5 level, but it easily matches Astra. There are rumors that Google already has another checkpoint ready that is even better, if that makes its way into Argon or becomes Gemini 4.1 we'll see
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C：“还不到 Opus 5.5 级别”其实并不是我想要的这个词，毕竟这个前沿模型还没上市......
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"Not quite Opus 5.5 level" is really not what I wanted to here for a frontier model that isn't even out yet...
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D：我觉得 Opus 5.5 是更好的编程者，但 Argon 是更好的写手，仅供参考
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C 赞同 D：谢天谢地，因为 Opus 5.5 写得非常棒，短文创意是我目前用得最多的 AI 应用之一。现在我很兴奋。
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Okay thank god because Opus 5.5 writes really amazing and short form creative is one of my most used AI applications right now. Now I'm excited.
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E：为什么有人说 Opus 5.5 比 Astra 更好？或者第 6.1 个火星日？我发现复杂工作甚至比第 6.1 个火星日还晚。它留下了太多问题，或者没有有效考虑更宏观的全局。我有一个评估流程，包含大约 5 种不同的插件和技能工作流程，以及 3-4 种系统提示的排列组合，以及 [CLAUDE.md](http://claude.md/) 全局/仓库范围。没法让它做所有事情。即使上下文调整到 50 万上限、75 万等等。我让 Sol 6.1 复习，识别出直接的核心问题，而不仅仅是边缘情况。（我同时有 Claude 和 OpenAI 的最大配置）——还有，OpenAI = 作为 Claude 至少使用 5 次......
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Why do people say Opus 5.5 is better than Astra? Or Sol 6.1? I find that its behind even Sol 6.1 for complex work. It leaves so many issues or doesnt consider the larger picture effectively. I have an eval pipeline with like 5 different plugin and skill workflows and 3-4 permutations of system prompts and [CLAUDE.md](http://claude.md/) global/repo scopes. Can't get it to do everything. Even with context adjustments down to 500k cap, 750k, etc. I have Sol 6.1 review and identify immediate core concern bugs not just edge cases. (I have both Claude and OpenAI max plans) - and also, OpenAI = at LEAST 5x usage as Claude ...
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E 的补充：
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Many people validate models on their ability to create a game or a frontend UI.
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很多人验证模型是否能创建游戏或前端界面。
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Problems which are quite mechanical, I've stopped writing UIs because once the design is there and you have some years in and have defined how you use your framework it felt like all the hard work was done and I just had to put in tedious text. If you've developed games you also know that most of the hard problems are known mathematical problems, AI excels at this since it's essentially reproducing a known pattern.
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这些问题相当机械化，我已经停止写界面了，因为一旦设计完成，经过几年工作，定义了框架的使用方式，感觉所有艰苦的工作都完成了，我只需要写枯燥的文字。如果你开发过游戏，你也知道大多数难题其实都是已知的数学问题，AI 在这方面表现出色，因为它本质上是在重现一个已知的模式。
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I'm currently dealing with complex data problems which don't have known frameworks to solve them. That means.. no code to steal. For these problems I have the same experience as you. Any Anthropic model does half a job and doesn't even look at the existing code or specs decently. It behaves like an overconfident developer.
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我目前正在处理复杂的数据问题，这些问题没有已知的解决方案框架。那就是说......没有代码可盗。对于这些问题，我和你有同样的经历。任何 Anthropic 模型都只做了一半的工作，甚至都不怎么看现有代码或规格。它的表现就像一个自信过头的开发者。
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B：Tengo el plan pro, le hice una pregunta a Argon, con nivel de pensamiento bajo y se gasto un 5% del plan de uso 💀.
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我用的是专业套餐，我用很低的思考方式问了 Argon 一个问题，他花了套餐的💀 5%。
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Y no fue un pregunta muy loca.
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这并不是个疯狂的问题。
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F：Yo hice unas 3 preguntas nada de otro mundo plan pro y adiós capacidad 100% consumió
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我问了大约三个问题，没什么特别的，Pro Plan 和再见，容量 100%耗尽
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G：For something that isn’t a browser game demo: I run a benchmark where models play Twenty Questions. The model has to find a hidden subject (Einstein, a bike pump, the moon...) by asking questions, and separate models answer and double-check each answer. The score is how many questions it needed.
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如果不是浏览器游戏演示：我跑了一个基准测试，模型们玩 Twenty Questions。模型需要通过提问找到隐藏的主题（爱因斯坦、自行车打气筒、月亮......），不同的模型会回答并反复核对每个答案。分数是需要问多少题。
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To my own surprise, it was very good. Argon solved all 30 games and tied GPT-6 Astra for first, with Opus 5.5 a bit behind. It won’t tell you anything about Rust or working from specs, but you can read every game and see how it reasons: [https://deep20bench.com/runs/BX-20261014-B-0003-official-M0034-002/](https://deep20bench.com/runs/BX-20261014-B-0003-official-M0034-002/)
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令我自己惊讶的是，它非常好。Argon 解决了全部 30 个游戏，并与 GPT-6 Astra 并列第一，Opus 5.5 稍稍落后。它不会告诉你关于 Rust 或基于规格的操作，但你可以阅读每款游戏，看看它是如何推理的：[https://deep20bench.com/runs/BX-20261014-B-0003-official-M0034-002/](https://deep20bench.com/runs/BX-20261014-B-0003-official-M0034-002/)
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E：I’m on the Enterprise Plan, so far I love the results of Argon compared to Pro 3.1 which was garbage compared to Sonnet 5.5
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我用的是企业套餐，到目前为止我很喜欢 Argon 的效果，相比 Pro 3.1，Pro 3.1 比 Sonnet 5.5 差很多
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When I switched to Argon, I immediately noticed how well it can handle large codebases which may even require “third” codebases that are like a puzzle. Gemini 3.1 Pro had issues here with consistency across my codebases but Argon seemed to understand perfectly what I want.
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当我切换到 Argon 时，立刻注意到它能很好地处理大型代码库，甚至可能需要像拼图一样的“第三”代码库。Gemini 3.1 Pro 在我的代码库中存在不一致的问题，但 Argon 似乎完全理解我的需求。
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D：For me it is the absolute GOAT in every day chat, HUGE parameters for sure becuse it is rich and fun to chat with in different languages, finally not feels like im interacting with a robot. For coding or scripts i am still using gpt6 and opus 5.5 still but their chat is just soulless.
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对我来说，它是日常聊天中的绝对最强，参数非常大，因为它丰富且有趣，用不同语言聊天，终于不再感觉像是在和机器人互动。编程或脚本方面我还在用 GPT6 和 Opus 5.5，但他们的聊天功能完全没有灵魂。
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F：I'm a Pro tier subscriber and I've just asked it a couple regular text prompts in the Gemini app and it's burned through 52% of my 5-hour quota in seven different queries. Not even complex questions, mainly things where I'm asking basic questions like when will Argon come to Pro tier subscribers in the anti-gravity app, what model are you, and what's the information on the hallucination rate between 3.8 Flash and Argon. It burned through 52% of my quota just like that.
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我是专业版订阅者，刚刚在 Gemini 应用里问了几个普通文本提示，结果在七个不同的查询中，它已经用完了我 5 小时配额的 52%。甚至不是复杂的问题，主要是我问一些基础问题，比如 Argon 什么时候会在反重力应用的 Pro 级订阅用户中推出，你用的是什么型号，以及 3.8 Flash 和 Argon 之间的幻觉率信息。它就这样消耗了我 52%的配额。
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I haven't even attempted more complex prompts where I normally use Gemini for legal research and legal drafting and document analysis, and I'm worried that I'll barely be able to start a basic legal task on Argon before running through my 5-hour limit.
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我甚至还没尝试过那些我通常用 Gemini 做法律研究、法律起草和文件分析的更复杂提示，我担心自己在 Argon 上几乎无法开始一个基本的法律任务，就要用完 5 小时的限制。
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I also noticed that 3.1 Pro is burning through almost 7% per prompt now too, and I used to be able to use 3.1 Pro on extended thinking for long multi-hour sessions without burning through my 5-hour limit. Something is seriously different in how they're calculating quota usage when selecting the Pro model or the Argon model. 3.8 Flash I can use non-stop basically.
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我还注意到 3.1 Pro 现在每个提示几乎消耗了 7%的资源，而我以前能用 3.1 Pro 进行长时间的长时间思考而不用超过 5 小时的限制。他们在选择 Pro 型号或 Argon 型号时，计算配额使用的方式确实有很大不同。3.8 闪光灯我基本上可以不停使用。
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L65: I don't know if that's praise or criticism.
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L67: cite8†dis-interested L68:
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L69: •
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L70:
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L71: cite13†3d ago L72:
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L73: It's praise. It is legitimately insanely good at doing it without being even asked and they are highly useful and interactive.
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L74:
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L75: cite14†More replies cite15†More replies L76:
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L77: cite16†Turbulent-Total-226 L78:
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L79: •
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L80:
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L81: cite17†3d ago L82:
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L83: cite12†Image: Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter†i.redd.it Top 1% Commenter
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L84: I didn't try it but I know somebody who also didn't try it 🙄
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L85:
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L86: cite18†Stauce52 L87:
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L88: •
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L89:
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L90: cite19†5d ago L91:
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L92: I think it's competitive with Astra and Opus
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L94: cite20†No_Decision_6940 L95:
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L96: •
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L97:
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L98: cite21†4d ago L99:
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L100: cite12†Image: Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter†i.redd.it Top 1% Commenter
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L101:
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L102: That's exciting
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L104: cite22†More replies L105:
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L106: cite23†Timely_Summer_4135 L107:
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L108: •
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L109:
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L110: cite24†5d ago L111: played with it a few hours yesterday, the speed is really the kicker here. 3 burst felt sluggish in comparison and this cranks through dense pdfs without burning a hole in my desk.
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L112:
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L113: cite25†Paschoni L114:
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L115: •
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L116:
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L117: cite26†4d ago L118:
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L119: Very competitive, not quite Opus 5.5 level but very close. Not sure about speed and token spending. Overall I think Google finally found the correct trajectories (pun intended)
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L120:
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L121: cite27†SomeOrdinaryKangaroo L122:
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L123: •
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L124:
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L125: cite28†5d ago L126: cite29†Image: Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Poster†i.redd.it Top 1% Poster
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L127:
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L128: It's a great model, not quite opus 5.5 level, but it easily matches Astra. There are rumors that Google already has another checkpoint ready that is even better, if that makes its way into Argon or becomes Gemini 4.1 we'll see
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L130: cite30†semangeIof L131:
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L132: •
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L133:
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L134: cite31†5d ago L135:
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L136: "Not quite Opus 5.5 level" is really not what I wanted to here for a frontier model that isn't even out yet...
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L137:
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L138: cite18†Stauce52 L139:
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L140: •
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L141:
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L142: cite32†5d ago L143: I think Opus 5.5 is a better coder but Argon is a better writer FWIW
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L144:
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L145: cite30†semangeIof L146:
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L147: •
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L148:
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L149: cite33†4d ago L150:
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L151: Okay thank god because Opus 5.5 writes really amazing and short form creative is one of my most used AI applications right now. Now I'm excited.
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L152:
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L153: cite34†touhami_dz L154:
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L155: •
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L156:
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L157: cite35†5d ago L158:
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L159: we will see, the problemis that they hyped it so much and it didnt got released yet, that's just frustrating
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L160:
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L161: cite36†sascharobi L162:
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L163: •
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L164:
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L165: cite37†2d ago L166:
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L167: Who needs it for writing?
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L168:
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L169: cite38†more reply cite38†more reply cite39†More replies L170: cite40†homezlice L171:
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L172: •
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L173:
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L174: cite41†5d ago L175:
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L176: I’ve used both and while Opus has a slight edge perhaps, both of them chew up complex problems. This is about reaching a profitable and useful level in the enterprise and argon reaches that level.
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L177:
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L178: cite42†GhostOfTomJefferson L179:
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L180: •
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L181:
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L182: cite43†5d ago L183:
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L184: Google doesn't strive to be frontier, they strive to be near frontier, cheaper, and safer.
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L185: They have an enormous and enormously profitable company already, and they would rather someone else take all the heat for riding the bleeding edge
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L186:
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L187: cite34†touhami_dz L188:
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L189: •
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L190:
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L191: cite44†4d ago L192:
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L193: they used to not strive to be frontier, now they are but they are playing catch up
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L194:
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L195: cite45†more replies cite45†more replies cite46†More replies cite47†More replies L196:
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L197: cite48†SeparateDesigner1237 L198:
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L199: •
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L200:
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L201: cite49†4d ago L202: Major tech products used to go years between major releases. These things are mutating so fast they go from an unreleased (failed) major 3.5 to a (assumed) triumphant 4.0 and possibly 4.1 in a matter of like 2 months. It's crazy when you consider that they are probably the most complex software ever produced. Databases never updated this fast. Kernels and compilers and browsers never updated this fast. I'm not sure if I should be celebrating because it's actually completely unpredictable what happens now.
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L203: cite50†conleycomp L204:
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L205: •
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L206:
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L207: cite51†4d ago L208:
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L209: Everyday feels like I am watching people stand in front of microwaves screaming "cook faster!". This stuff is already orders of magnitude faster than we can think and process the output. There's a point where every exponential curve reaches the edge of your graph...then what?
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L210:
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L211: cite52†BiruGoPoke L212:
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L213: •
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L214:
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L215: cite53†3d ago L216: Agree, we are probably going to plateau relatively soon, with any extra 0.1% better in benchmark going to cost tons of energy and money... and most likely, less and less people willing to pay for the frontier, that can have quite a few consequences.
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L217:
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L218: cite54†More replies cite55†More replies L219:
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L220: cite56†hotnsoursoup86 L221:
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L222: •
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L223:
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L224: cite57†3d ago L225: Why do people say Opus 5.5 is better than Astra? Or Sol 6.1? I find that its behind even Sol 6.1 for complex work. It leaves so many issues or doesnt consider the larger picture effectively. I have an eval pipeline with like 5 different plugin and skill workflows and 3-4 permutations of system prompts and cite58†CLAUDE.md†claude.md global/repo scopes. Can't get it to do everything. Even with context adjustments down to 500k cap, 750k, etc.
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L226: I have Sol 6.1 review and identify immediate core concern bugs not just edge cases. (I have both Claude and OpenAI max plans) - and also, OpenAI = at LEAST 5x usage as Claude ...
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L227: cite59†adjutanto L228:
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L229: •
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L230:
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L231: cite60†2d ago L232:
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L233: it really depends on how YOU work, on WHICH work is being done, which temperature the model is set on, and sometimes even WHEN work is being done. overall opus 5.5 in most cases will feel much faster and more intuitive than astra in coding and webtools. however, astra and even sol 6.1 will be better at research, language, multi-modal (such as recognizing patterns), robotics and PC control.
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L234:
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L235: cite61†EtherealBrecht L236:
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L237: •
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L238:
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L239: cite62†19h ago L240: Many people validate models on their ability to create a game or a frontend UI.
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L241: Problems which are quite mechanical, I've stopped writing UIs because once the design is there and you have some years in and have defined how you use your framework it felt like all the hard work was done and I just had to put in tedious text. If you've developed games you also know that most of the hard problems are known mathematical problems, AI excels at this since it's essentially reproducing a known pattern.
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L242: I'm currently dealing with complex data problems which don't have known frameworks to solve them. That means.. no code to steal. For these problems I have the same experience as you. Any Anthropic model does half a job and doesn't even look at the existing code or specs decently. It behaves like an overconfident developer. If I want something that thinks out of the box, then I use opus.
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L243:
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L244: cite63†More replies L245:
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L246: cite61†EtherealBrecht L247:
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L248: •
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L249:
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L250: cite64†19h ago L251: Always find this hilarious.
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L252: I dislike Opus it never yields good results. I prefer Sol or Astra for serious Rust coding.
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L253: But it's not quite opus 5.5 level and easily matches Astra... interesting.
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L254:
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L255: I guess I take away from that: "it's amazing and I won't dislike it because it doesn't have Opus's bullshit levels?"
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L256:
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L257: cite65†jakegh L258:
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L259: •
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L260:
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L261: cite66†4d ago L262:
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L263: According to AA benchmarks (benchmarks == heap of salt), Argon 4 high is roughly the same intelligence as Opus 5.5 high but 9% more expensive.
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L264: If you want to compare to Astra for some reason (who uses Astra?), Argon 4 high is the same intelligence as Astra xhigh but 14% cheaper.
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L265:
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L266: But Gemini models usually do quite well in benchmarks, it remains to be seen how they are to actually use.
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L267:
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L268: cite67†Ok-Awareness-2931 L269:
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L270: •
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L271:
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L272: cite68†2d ago L273:
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L274: that's 9% more expensive, without optimization while Opus is already at the .5 mark for its version
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L275:
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L276: cite65†jakegh L277:
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L278: •
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L279:
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L280: cite69†2d ago L281:
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L282: Sure, who can predict the future? Opus 5.6 is undoubtedly on the way too.
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L283: cite70†More replies cite71†More replies cite72†More replies L284:
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L285: cite36†sascharobi L286:
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L287: •
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L288:
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L289: cite73†2d ago L290:
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L291: If it's not quite Opus 5.5 level, maybe they will skip it and wait for the next one?
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L292:
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L293: cite74†UnhingedApe L294:
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L295: •
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L296:
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L297: cite75†3d ago L298:
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L299: Thorough, great at instruction following hence slow. Worse taste compared to Opus.
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L300:
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L301: cite76†FacuEXZ L302:
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L303: •
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L304:
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L305: cite77†10h ago L306:
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L307: Tengo el plan pro, le hice una pregunta a Argon, con nivel de pensamiento bajo y se gasto un 5% del plan de uso 💀.
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L308:
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L309: Y no fue un pregunta muy loca.
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L310:
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L311: cite78†boxgage22 L312:
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L313: •
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L314:
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L315: cite79†8h ago L316: Yo hice unas 3 preguntas nada de otro mundo plan pro y adiós capacidad 100% consumió
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L317:
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L318: cite80†More replies L319: # More posts you may like
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L320:
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L321: Related posts
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L322:
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L323: * cite81†Gemini 4 argon wooow L324:
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L325: cite2†r/GeminiAI •
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L326:
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L327: cite81†Gemini 4 argon wooow L328:
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L329: upvotes · comments
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L330:
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L331: * * *
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L332:
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L333: * cite82†What is going on with gemini 3.8 flash? Why so slow now? L334:
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L335: cite83†r/google_antigravity •
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L336:
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L337: cite82†What is going on with gemini 3.8 flash? Why so slow now? L338:
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L339: upvotes · comments
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L340:
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L341: * * *
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L342:
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L343: * cite84†First impressions on the Jade 14mm + 16mm and other T1 grit paddles L344:
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L345: cite85†r/Pickleball •
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L346:
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L347: cite84†First impressions on the Jade 14mm + 16mm and other T1 grit paddles L348: upvotes · comments
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L349:
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L350: * * *
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L351:
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L352: * cite86†Gemini 3.8 Medium L353:
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L354: cite2†r/GeminiAI •
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L355:
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L356: cite86†Gemini 3.8 Medium L357:
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L358: comments
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L359:
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L360: * * *
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L361:
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L362: * cite87†Has gemini gotten worse after the High/Medium/Low update L363:
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L364: cite2†r/GeminiAI •
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L365:
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L366: cite87†Has gemini gotten worse after the High/Medium/Low update L367:
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L368: upvotes · comments
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L369:
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L370: * * *
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L371:
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L372: * cite88†Does anyone have Gemini/Google free year subscription link? L373:
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L374: cite89†r/UTAustin •
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L375:
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L376: cite88†Does anyone have Gemini/Google free year subscription link? L377:
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L378: upvotes · comments
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L379:
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L380: * * *
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L381: * cite90†Kann ich den Tesla mit diesem Anschluss laden? L382:
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L383: cite91†r/TeslaDE •
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L384:
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L385: cite90†Kann ich den Tesla mit diesem Anschluss laden? L386:
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L387: upvotes · comments
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L388:
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L389: * * *
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L390:
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L391: * cite92†Ori Mascot Costume L392:
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L393: cite93†r/generativeAI •
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L394:
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L395: cite92†Ori Mascot Costume L396:
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L397: upvote · comment
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L398:
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L399: * * *
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L400:
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L401: * cite94†Gemini locks the last generated response after ‘Try again’ L402:
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L403: cite2†r/GeminiAI •
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L404:
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L405: cite94†Gemini locks the last generated response after ‘Try again’ L406:
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L407: upvote · comments
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L408:
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L409: * * *
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L410:
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L411: * cite95†using gemini for speaking practice in a foreign language L412: cite2†r/GeminiAI •
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L413:
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L414: cite95†using gemini for speaking practice in a foreign language L415:
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L416: upvote · comment
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L417:
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L418: * * *
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L419:
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L420: * cite96†AI to learn Premiere L421:
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L422: cite97†r/aivideomaking •
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L423:
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L424: cite96†AI to learn Premiere L425:
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L426: upvote
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L427:
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L428: * * *
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L429:
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L430: * cite98†Google apresenta Gemini 4 Argon focado em programação e cibersegurança L431:
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L432: cite99†r/TugaTech •
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L433:
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L434: cite98†Google apresenta Gemini 4 Argon focado em programação e cibersegurança L435:
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L436: upvote
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L437:
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L438: * * *
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L439:
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L440: * cite100†Useless fact you might not know L441:
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L442: cite101†r/ArtificialInteligence •
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L443:
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L444: cite100†Useless fact you might not know L445: upvotes · comments
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L446:
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L447: * * *
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L448:
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L449: * cite102†Tig welding rings L450:
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L451: cite103†r/chainmailartisans •
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L453: cite102†Tig welding rings L454:
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L455: upvotes · comments
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L456:
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L457: * * *
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L458:
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L459: * cite104†Osoaa Pea Protein Hydrolysate Review (OC) L460:
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L461: cite105†r/protein_deals •
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L462:
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L463: cite104†Osoaa Pea Protein Hydrolysate Review (OC) L464:
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L465: upvotes · comments
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L466:
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L467: * * *
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L468:
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L469: * cite106†When will gemini 4 argon be available to pro users in antigravity L470:
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L471: cite83†r/google_antigravity •
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L472:
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L473: cite106†When will gemini 4 argon be available to pro users in antigravity L474:
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L475: upvotes · comments
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L476:
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L477: * * *
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L478: * cite107†how it feels waiting for gemini 4 argon L479:
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L480: cite83†r/google_antigravity •
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L481:
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L482: cite107†how it feels waiting for gemini 4 argon L483:
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L484: upvotes · comments
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L485:
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L486: * * *
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L487:
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L488: * cite108†Should I go for Sansa County Villa? An integrated township. L489:
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L490: cite109†r/hyderabadrealestate •
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L491:
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L492: cite108†Should I go for Sansa County Villa? An integrated township. L493:
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L494: upvotes · comments
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L495:
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L496: * * *
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L497:
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L498: * cite110†Warning about buying directly from Argon 40 L499:
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L500: cite111†r/raspberry_pi •
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L501:
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L502: cite110†Warning about buying directly from Argon 40 L503:
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L504: upvotes · comments
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L505:
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L506: * * *
|
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L507: * cite112†argon - a git package manager L508:
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L509: cite113†r/suckless •
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L510:
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L511: cite112†argon - a git package manager L512:
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L513: upvotes · comments
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L514:
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L515: * * *
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L516:
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L517: * cite114†Why Is Gemini 4 Argon Being Treated Like The Mythos Of Today 😂 L518:
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L519: cite2†r/GeminiAI •
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L520:
|
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L521: cite114†Why Is Gemini 4 Argon Being Treated Like The Mythos Of Today 😂 L522:
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L523: upvotes · comments
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L524:
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L525: * * *
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L526:
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L527: * cite115†Gemini 4 Argon officially takes the #1 spot on the Text Arena leaderboard with an Elo of 1,525. L528:
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L529: cite83†r/google_antigravity •
|
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L530: cite115†Gemini 4 Argon officially takes the #1 spot on the Text Arena leaderboard with an Elo of 1,525. L531:
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L532: upvotes · comments
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L533:
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L534: * * *
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L535:
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L536: * cite116†Just received Gemini 4 argon on my account, seems like the rollout has started!! L537:
|
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L538: cite2†r/GeminiAI •
|
||||
L539:
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L540: cite116†Just received Gemini 4 argon on my account, seems like the rollout has started!! L541:
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L542: upvotes · comments
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L543:
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L544: * * *
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L545:
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L546: * cite117†WHY- IN THIS YEAR OF 2023- IS ANYONE STILL BUYING **SAMSUNG** APPLIANCES? L547:
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L548: cite118†r/Appliances •
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L549: cite117†WHY- IN THIS YEAR OF 2023- IS ANYONE STILL BUYING **SAMSUNG** APPLIANCES? L550:
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L551: upvotes · comments
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L552:
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L553: * * *
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L554:
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L555: * cite119†Gemini 4 Argon L556:
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L557: cite2†r/GeminiAI •
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L49: im using it on gemini app and so far is a beast
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L55: cite9†1d ago L56: Feels faster than Ultra was, which is the main thing I care about. Noticing it sticks to instructions better too, specially for keeping formatting consistent across long threads. Way less of that thing where it suddenly goes super formal for no reason.
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L65: I'm a Pro tier subscriber and I've just asked it a couple regular text prompts in the Gemini app and it's burned through 52% of my 5-hour quota in seven different queries. Not even complex questions, mainly things where I'm asking basic questions like when will Argon come to Pro tier subscribers in the anti-gravity app, what model are you, and what's the information on the hallucination rate between 3.8 Flash and Argon. It burned through 52% of my quota just like that.
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L66: I haven't even attempted more complex prompts where I normally use Gemini for legal research and legal drafting and document analysis, and I'm worried that I'll barely be able to start a basic legal task on Argon before running through my 5-hour limit.
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L67: I also noticed that 3.1 Pro is burning through almost 7% per prompt now too, and I used to be able to use 3.1 Pro on extended thinking for long multi-hour sessions without burning through my 5-hour limit. Something is seriously different in how they're calculating quota usage when selecting the Pro model or the Argon model. 3.8 Flash I can use non-stop basically.
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L197: I asked how much ram my TV model had, and it spent 5% my 5h limit
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L224: cite54†17h ago L225: That’s 100% a question for an LLM, you are looking for a specific info that might require some scanning over the web to find the proper information. There’s no way that googling it is faster than
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L233: Yah that's why you use the flash version of said LLM.
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L268: That's not a good test for token usage though because essentially Argon will just route instructions for the image to an image generation model, and the image generation model is not Argon, it's Nano Banana.
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L391: cite102†1d ago L392: Despite consuming 69% the 5-hour token limit, the market research output i got was significantly better than of Opus 5.5. The performance of Argon on this task is instance way better than claude Opus 5.5 on extra effort. Honestly appreciate google for enabling Argon for pro users (JIO users get gemini pro for free).
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L514:
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L515: cite136†4h ago L516:
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L517: Yes it is
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L521: •
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L522:
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L523: cite137†3h ago L524:
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L525: not for pro users
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L526:
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L527: cite138†More replies cite139†More replies L528: cite140†Kooky_Awareness_5333 L529:
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L530: •
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L531:
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L532: cite141†1d ago L533:
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L534: Still here
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L535:
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L536: cite142†trojanskin L537:
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L538: •
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L539:
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L540: cite143†1d ago L541:
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L542: still here and lmao
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L543:
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L544: cite28†tobaileyy L545:
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L546: •
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L547:
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L548: cite144†15h ago L549:
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L550: Being flooded out of the space because the bot farms are in full throttle?
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L551:
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L554: cite146†Party-Conclusion9655 L555:
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L556: •
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L557:
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L558: cite147†1d ago L559: i don't know if it is just me or it cannot do a simple document handling task. it is a big document with some 50 pages but still GPT 6.1 sol or astra 6 or even terra 5.6 can do it effortlessly. same with the claude sonnet and opus 5.5 models. it cannot do it, tried it twice in Argon high and medium.
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L560: flash 3.8 was bad at document handling too.
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L561: sometimes the chat has the word docx capabilities, other times it doesn't. unreliable at simple tasks.
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L613: That said, it's good at explaining things otherwise.
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L614:
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L615: cite157†Mardicus L616:
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L617: •
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L618:
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L619: cite158†4h ago L620:
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L621: so, still Gemini... I returned to chatgpt after years and felt so relieved as how much less prone to confidently hallucinate it is, but with more chats and larger instruction set, it (6.1 sol) forgets things too quickly
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L622:
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L623: cite159†More replies L624:
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L625: cite160†UnhingedApe L626:
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L627: •
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L628:
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L629: cite161†1d ago L630:
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L631: They crushed it with the new task feature. Makes the Gemini app way more capable
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L632:
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L633: cite140†Kooky_Awareness_5333 L634:
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L635: •
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L636:
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L637: cite162†1d ago L638: Haven’t used the task feature yet what is it
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L639:
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L640: cite160†UnhingedApe L641:
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L642: •
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L643:
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L644: cite163†20h ago L645:
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L646: Perhaps you should update your Google app.
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L647:
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L648: cite164†More replies L649:
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L650: cite165†bobsmith93 L651:
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L652: •
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L653:
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L654: cite166†17h ago L655:
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L656: Is it different from Spark? I haven't used that either because of the amount of control I would be giving it, but I may give Task a try at some point
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L657:
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L658: cite160†UnhingedApe L659:
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L660: •
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L661:
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L662: cite167†15h ago L663:
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L664: Different from spark. You use tasks when you have a complex request, basically tasks you would hand over to antigravity.
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L665: cite168†More replies cite169†More replies L666:
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L667: cite170†Technical-Owl66 L668:
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L669: •
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L670:
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L671: cite171†1d ago L672:
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L673: cite49†Image: Profile Badge for the Achievement Top 1% Commenter†i.redd.it Top 1% Commenter
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L674:
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L675: It's good. I'm always surprised by the speed of Google models. Is it because they have their own hardware?
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L676:
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L677: cite28†tobaileyy L678:
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L679: •
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L680:
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L681: cite172†15h ago L682:
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L683: Google's models are slow as shit lmao what
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L684:
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L685: cite173†Inner-Resolve-5659 L686:
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L687: •
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L688:
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L689: cite174†9m ago L690:
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L691: Wouldn't call 220t/s slow but ok
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L692:
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L693: cite175†More replies L694:
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L695: cite176†tastychaii L696:
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L697: •
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L698:
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L699: cite177†1d ago L700:
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L701: Doubt it
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L702: cite178†More replies L703:
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L704: cite179†BobsonLampjaw L705:
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L706: •
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L707:
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L708: cite180†1d ago L709:
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L710: • Edited 1d ago
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L711:
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L712: Argon 4 is a huge improvement over every 3-series model and makes Gemini usable in Chat. I've saved a number of Gemini 3.X prompts and the hilariously busted responses, ran them through Argon 4, and now have useful and accurate responses with less anchoring on random reddit posts and SEO slop.
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Argon 4 Thoughts? : r/GeminiAI (https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1x54x39/argon_4_thoughts/)
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L796: I've never paid attention to usage limits... I thought I had Gemini tamed with a bunch of instructions but 3.8 just fell apart recently and started running me through circular logic and contradicting answers. I started using 3.1Pro last night so this is perfect timing. Importing the chat and asking a flow up question burnt 11%. This can't be good 😒
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L797:
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L798: But... I gave me an answer I was going to ask before I asked it so, I guess that's good 😊
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L799:
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L800: cite203†LoveMind_AI L801:
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L802: •
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L803:
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L804: cite204†1d ago L805: I’ve personally been blown away but I know that’s not been everyone’s experience.
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L806:
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L807: cite205†Visual_Muffin2632 L808:
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L809: •
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L810:
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L811: cite206†4h ago L812:
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L813: Responses are impressive. Problem is it's almost unusable in chat mode even for a modest user like myself on the Pro subscription. I used up 26% of my 5 hour usage limit in two questions about hydraulics and pumping concepts since I am studying for water distribution exams.
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L814: The responses appear to be much better than 3.8 flash high on 4.0 argon high, but the usage limit is just too extreme. I tend to ask a lot of follow up questions to get clarity on concepts when I am learning and even ask for diagrams or links. It's just way too much usage on 4.0 to be usable in a multi hour study session.
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L815: When I use 3.8 flash high I can run multi hour study sessions without even thinking about usage because I never hit the limit. This will hit the limit in like 10-20 prompts which is just crazy.
|
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L816:
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L817: I can't justify an Ultra subscription so I think I am just going to have to stick with 3.8 flash high thinking which stings. Knowing there is a significantly more competent model to use but effectively being gate kept from it by the prohibitive usage limit feels bad.
|
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L818:
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L819: cite207†Bruh-wtf-is-that L820:
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L821: •
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L822:
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L823: cite208†1d ago --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Argon 4 Thoughts? : r/GeminiAI (https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1x54x39/argon_4_thoughts/)
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L888: Hope that helps otherwise you can send me a PM if you like
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L889:
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L890: cite223†More replies L891:
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L892: cite224†weedmylips1 L893:
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L894: •
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L895:
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L896: cite225†22h ago L897:
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L898: Made an AI model release website also. cite226†https://aiwire.dev/†aiwire.dev L899:
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L900: cite227†R3VO360 L901:
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L902: •
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L903:
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L904: cite228†6h ago L905:
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L906: What's this BS? cite229†https://aiwire.dev/news/3718†aiwire.dev L907:
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L908: cite224†weedmylips1 L909:
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L910: •
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L911:
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L912: cite230†5h ago L913:
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L914: sorry that was a bug that $36 is the priority output prices. i fixed it now
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L915:
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L916: cite231†More replies cite232†More replies L917:
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L918: cite233†clckwrks L919:
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L920: •
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L921:
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L922: cite234†5h ago L923:
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L924: argon4 is only available to ultra
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L925: cite235†86784273 L926:
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L927: •
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L928:
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L929: cite236†1d ago L930:
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L931: Geeze, talks worse than opus 5
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L932:
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L933: cite237†More replies L934:
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L935: cite238†SpicyElixer L936:
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L937: •
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L938:
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L939: cite239†1d ago L940:
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L941: I switched some of my excel accounting projects and it seems to be better about finding mistakes and pointing out things without being told specifically to look put for them. But it’s only been a day.
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L942:
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L943: cite240†ISeeYouReadingMyName L944:
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L945: •
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L946:
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L947: cite241†1d ago L948:
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L949: I am finding it absolutely fantastic
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L950:
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L951: cite242†balancedchaos L952:
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L953: •
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L954:
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L955: cite243†1d ago L956:
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L957: It's absolutely brilliant.
|
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L958:
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L959: cite244†KH-XYZ L960:
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L961: •
|
||||
L962:
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L963: cite245†1d ago L964: 5% daily usage per prompt but the visuals were extremely well made.
|
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L965:
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L966: cite246†OldMansJenkins L967:
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L968: •
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L969:
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L970: cite247†20h ago L971:
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L972: It over thinks when you give it simple tasks, but it is easily the best model I've ever used for complex problems.
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L973:
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L974: At least for what I do, it's been much better than Sol, and waaay more transparent than Opus.
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L975:
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L976: cite248†PM_YOUR_OWLS L977:
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L978: •
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L979:
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L980: cite249†10h ago L981:
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L982: Pro user - I'm burning through 9% usage every time I ask something. That gives me at most 10 prompts every 5 hours. And 6% weekly from just 2 prompts...
|
||||
L983: Does not seem worth it unless I want to give it a complex task right from the get-go with very little follow up.
|
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L984:
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L985: cite250†Sleepy_aka_Sleepy__ L986:
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L987: •
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L988:
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L989: cite251†1d ago L990:
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L991: Pro user here, I tried asking him "What model are you?", this burned 9% of my 5 hour limit.
|
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L992:
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L993: cite10†Nug__Nug L994:
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L995: •
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L996:
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L997: cite252†1d ago L998:
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L999: Yeah, I noticed this too. I'm also a Pro subscriber and it absolutely destroys the 5-hour limit.
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Argon 4 Thoughts? : r/GeminiAI (https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1x54x39/argon_4_thoughts/)
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L1069: cite148†kino-casino-enjoyer L1070:
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L1071: •
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L1072:
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L1073: cite272†17h ago L1074:
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L1075: What do you mean by useless? Not available? Or what?
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L1076:
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L1077: cite270†Dini_Thompson9 L1078:
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L1079: •
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L1080:
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L1081: cite273†13h ago L1082:
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L1083: Use it and see for yourself
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L1084:
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L1085: cite148†kino-casino-enjoyer L1086:
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L1087: •
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L1088:
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L1089: cite274†9h ago L1090:
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L1091: I work at Google lol. I use it everyday and I have the option to use Claude. Is it the quota you get? Or what? Sorry but, internally , it works great. What task does it fail for you?
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L1092:
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L1093: cite275†More replies cite276†More replies cite277†More replies L1094:
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L1095: cite278†Photopuppet L1096:
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L1097: •
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L1098:
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L1099: cite279†1d ago L1100: I'm really impressed so far, Gemini 4 seems to have a really high 'effort' level, going out of its way to research properly and also the tool use reliability seems to be greatly improved over 3.1 🙂
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L1101:
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L1102: cite280†Mister_Goudchet L1103:
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L1104: •
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L1105:
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L1106: cite281†1d ago L1107:
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L1108: they fucked up. renamed pro argon and upped the usage tokens!
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L1109:
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L1110: cite282†Royal_Service L1111:
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L1112: •
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L1113:
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L1114: cite283†1d ago L1115:
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L1116: i feel the same i don't see any difference so far
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L1117:
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L1118: cite284†More replies L1119:
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L1120: cite176†tastychaii L1121:
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L1122: •
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L1123:
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L1124: cite285†1d ago L1125: How does the token usage compare with GPT Astra on medium or high?
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L1126:
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L1127: cite257†Otherwise_Gas_4344 L1128:
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L1129: •
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L1130:
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L1131: cite286†1d ago L1132:
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L1133: It’s a monster. Nearly 5% per prompt.
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L1134:
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L1135: cite287†More replies L1136:
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L1137: cite288†LostRun6292 L1138:
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L1139: •
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L1140:
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L1141: cite289†1d ago L1142:
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L1143: I got it
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L1144:
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L1145: cite290†quiet_lagoon L1146:
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L1147: •
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L1148:
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L1149: cite291†23h ago L1150:
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L1151: WEE'RE BACK
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L1152:
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L1153: cite113†Trolloschmabollo L1154:
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L1155: •
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L1156:
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L1157: cite292†19h ago L1158: I vibe coded some changes to my Plex for Windows App.
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L1159: I just asked if i could do this or that, and he said, sure we can.
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L1160: Thinking sometimes took 5 minutes, Argon even calculated in follow up questions i could have, AND answered them BEFORE i could ask them because he knew changes he made would made me come up with them.
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L1161:
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L1162: I'm beyond stunned, i just coded away some annoying little things in Plex, just by asking him if it's possible
|
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L1163:
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L1164: cite293†Flaky_Iron5154 L1165:
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L1166: •
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L1167:
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L1168: cite294†17h ago L1169:
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L1170: Doesn't work At all...
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People who tried Gemini 4 Argon : r/GeminiAI (https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1x1y2a4/people_who_tried_gemini_4_argon/)
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L240: Many people validate models on their ability to create a game or a frontend UI.
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L241: Problems which are quite mechanical, I've stopped writing UIs because once the design is there and you have some years in and have defined how you use your framework it felt like all the hard work was done and I just had to put in tedious text. If you've developed games you also know that most of the hard problems are known mathematical problems, AI excels at this since it's essentially reproducing a known pattern.
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||||
L242: I'm currently dealing with complex data problems which don't have known frameworks to solve them. That means.. no code to steal. For these problems I have the same experience as you. Any Anthropic model does half a job and doesn't even look at the existing code or specs decently. It behaves like an overconfident developer. If I want something that thinks out of the box, then I use opus.
|
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L243:
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L244: cite63†More replies L245:
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L246: cite61†EtherealBrecht L247:
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||||
L248: •
|
||||
L249:
|
||||
L250: cite64†19h ago L251: Always find this hilarious.
|
||||
L252: I dislike Opus it never yields good results. I prefer Sol or Astra for serious Rust coding.
|
||||
L253: But it's not quite opus 5.5 level and easily matches Astra... interesting.
|
||||
L254:
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L255: I guess I take away from that: "it's amazing and I won't dislike it because it doesn't have Opus's bullshit levels?"
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||||
L256:
|
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L257: cite65†jakegh L258:
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||||
L259: •
|
||||
L260:
|
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L261: cite66†4d ago L262:
|
||||
L263: According to AA benchmarks (benchmarks == heap of salt), Argon 4 high is roughly the same intelligence as Opus 5.5 high but 9% more expensive.
|
||||
L264: If you want to compare to Astra for some reason (who uses Astra?), Argon 4 high is the same intelligence as Astra xhigh but 14% cheaper.
|
||||
L265:
|
||||
L266: But Gemini models usually do quite well in benchmarks, it remains to be seen how they are to actually use.
|
||||
L267:
|
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L268: cite67†Ok-Awareness-2931 L269:
|
||||
L270: •
|
||||
L271:
|
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L272: cite68†2d ago L273:
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||||
L274: that's 9% more expensive, without optimization while Opus is already at the .5 mark for its version
|
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L275:
|
||||
L276: cite65†jakegh L277:
|
||||
L278: •
|
||||
L279:
|
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L280: cite69†2d ago L281:
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||||
L282: Sure, who can predict the future? Opus 5.6 is undoubtedly on the way too.
|
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# 评论选材对照
|
||||
|
||||
所有用户名仅用于核对出处，不是漫画人物身份。以下是对已读取片段的简要释义；最终对白是重新创作，不是这些人的原话。
|
||||
|
||||
来源 A：[People who tried Gemini 4 Argon](https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1x1y2a4/people_who_tried_gemini_4_argon/)
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||||
|
||||
来源 B：[Argon 4 Thoughts?](https://www.reddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1x54x39/argon_4_thoughts/)
|
||||
|
||||
| 漫画页 | 可核对的评论者／位置 | 取材点 | 原创加工 |
|
||||
|---|---|---|---|
|
||||
| 1 | A 发帖者；Turbulent-Total-226 | 发帖要求实际反馈；有人玩笑称自己和认识的人都没试过 | 增设主持与尝鲜者，把围观热情变成开场反转 |
|
||||
| 2 | A dis-interested 与 neoqueto；Timely_Summer_4135；B ZealousidealText4337 | 图表好用、赞美措辞引发误解、速度正面报告 | 咖啡未凉、学习第二章的动作笑话 |
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| 3 | A Stauce52、semangeIof、hotnsoursoup86、adjutanto；B Eduardo1502 | 写作与编码偏好不同，复杂代码工作流评价相反 | 写作者和程序员同桌互相指出对方关心什么 |
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| 4 | A Timely_Summer_4135；B Party-Conclusion9655 | 有人满意PDF处理；有人报告长文档与docx工具不稳定 | 把理解和文件交付之间的落差画成“房子没有门” |
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| 5 | B Nug__Nug；Visual_Muffin2632 | 七问52%的个人报告；学习者因需要追问而觉得额度不够 | 攒问题的建议碰上学习过程，落在心疼额度的笑话 |
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| 6 | B m3kw、grahamsw；A adjutanto | 对是否可用有分歧，追问涉及入口和套餐；评价与工作方式相关 | 两个人走进不同门，主持人补齐使用条件 |
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| 7 | A SeparateDesigner1237、conleycomp | 发布迭代密集，催微波炉更快的比喻 | 收尾改成信息消化速度跟不上，让学生说最后一句 |
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## 边界
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- 不做评论比例、胜率或“全体用户共识”的统计。
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- 不把主观感觉、接口故障、订阅体验归因于已经证实的模型架构或训练决策。
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- 第二帖的抓取不完整，原始导出保留错误信息。
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- 本书的手机、咖啡、屋子与门等道具均为叙事创作。
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"page-03-final.png": "eddb42b4a7730003cf8c41c3ae74b79a57a9ed3e4d592959a06590a5a6e8e23b",
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"page-04-final.png": "511cf471d8acdb71ad59909ef4c56fc2cd0fe822b1b0634171f2abcf44a6a82f",
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"page-02-final.png": "6dd4a1bd29ccf5516734c96739ec100ed523ec8534cb60acf3705d65a11199b1",
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"page-07-final.png": "52e483345e08dc1fb57d55a048dd28f5840ec710500067db8f4bd77a24df9054",
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"page-01-final.png": "7b8e430c81be5bb2d8f978fbd32bb887c3179fa21dcc635f8c48e461fa4d908b",
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"page-06-final.png": "7257effb08309b2c491275de5a3f74de021178eaf8ad935454dbf8068b5947b8"
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}
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# 对白重写试排版
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7页，原画保留。以下颜色标记仅用于修改对白，漫画页面没有角色名字或说明文字。
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## 第1页：前沿模型的期待与失望
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### 第1格
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橙色：不看排行榜，也先别给我看一键生成的小游戏。试过 Argon 的，说点真实感受：它到底强在哪，弱在哪？我想听的是你拿它做了什么。
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### 第2格
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蓝色：我觉得是个很棒的模型。离 Opus 5.5 还差一点，但对上 Astra，我觉得完全不虚。你要说 Google 这回根本没追上，我也不同意。
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### 第3格
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深灰色：可“还差一点”，就是让我失望的地方。一个还没全面铺开的前沿模型，大家已经在说“没到现有对手的水平”。等了这么久，我想听的可不是这句评价。
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### 第4格
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橙色：先等一下。你说“没到 Opus 的水平”，是写代码、写东西，还是所有任务都这样？只给一个总排名，我还是不知道自己该拿它干什么。
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蓝色：也是。先把“强”拆开聊，不然我们可能根本没在比较同一件事。
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## 第2页：写作偏好使失望发生转折
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### 第1格
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绿色：我刚听到“还不如 Opus 5.5”，也挺泄气。我现在最常用的就是短篇创作，Opus 已经写得很好了。如果连这个也追不上，升级的期待一下就没了。
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### 第2格
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紫色：可我的意思是：Opus 5.5 写代码，我觉得更好；Argon 写作，我反而更喜欢。前一句要带着后一句听。“代码稍弱”和“什么都弱”，中间可差远了。
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### 第3格
|
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深灰色：所以一句“比不上”，把你的意思压扁了？听的人再拿自己的常用场景去补，补完之后，你俩说的已经是两回事。
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### 第4格
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绿色：等等，那我又有兴趣了。我在乎的是短篇里的语气、节奏和创意，不是让它替我改 Rust 项目。这一项更好，对我就很有吸引力。
|
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紫色：对。你最在乎的，可能正好是别人一句总评里没展开的那一项。
|
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|
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## 第3页：企业用户的大型代码库体验
|
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|
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### 第1格
|
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|
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紫色：我用企业套餐。之前的 3.1 Pro，比 Sonnet 5.5 差得让我直摇头。换到 Argon 后，最明显的变化是：它终于能把几个大型代码库放在一起看了，而不是只会搭个演示网页。
|
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|
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绿色：几个库，还得互相配合？
|
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|
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### 第2格
|
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|
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紫色：对，有时还得连着第三个库，像拼图。旧模型在不同库里做的决定容易前后打架。Argon 这次给我的感觉，是它终于理解我要拼出什么，而不只是改眼前这个文件。
|
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|
||||
### 第3格
|
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|
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绿色：那“会写代码”，不只是多写几个函数。还得看它能不能理解：这几块为什么接在一起，改这一块，会不会把另一块弄坏。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第4格
|
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|
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紫色：所以有人觉得 Opus 更会写代码，我也不急着反驳。任务不一样。我的这次体验，是跨库的一致性改善很大；你那个项目是不是同样受益，还得拿实际工作去试。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第4页：二十问测试的方法、结果与边界
|
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|
||||
### 第1格
|
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|
||||
橙色：除了写作和代码，还有没有能看出思路的测试？比如，面对不知道的东西，它会怎么一步步缩小范围？
|
||||
|
||||
深灰色：我看到有人让模型玩“二十问”。这个至少不只是看演示好不好看。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第2格
|
||||
|
||||
红色：藏一个目标，比如爱因斯坦、打气筒或月亮。模型靠提问来猜，另有模型负责回答和复核。记的是用了几问，越少越好。你可以看它是在有效排除可能，还是一直绕圈。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第3格
|
||||
|
||||
深灰色：发测试的人说，Argon 解完了 30 局，和 GPT-6 Astra 并列第一，Opus 5.5 稍后。猜月亮也好，猜厨房电器也好，关键是每一问能排掉多少可能。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第4格
|
||||
|
||||
橙色：所以，能直接宣布它写代码也赢了？
|
||||
|
||||
红色：不能。这个测试不回答 Rust 或照规格做项目的问题。好处是每局过程能打开看：你能检查它怎么问，而不只是相信一个名次。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第5页：主动交互图表与赞美的歧义
|
||||
|
||||
### 第1格
|
||||
|
||||
蓝色：要我说，Argon 做图表真是猛得离谱。我本来只问数据有什么关系，它直接把可视化端上来了，没等我说“画张图”。
|
||||
|
||||
红色：你这句“猛得离谱”，到底是在夸，还是嫌它乱加东西？
|
||||
|
||||
### 第2格
|
||||
|
||||
红色：所以重点不只是图好看，是能拿来理解问题？我经常卡在文字解释，一换成图，才发现自己到底没懂哪里。
|
||||
|
||||
蓝色：而且能交互，可以点着看。它主动加的东西，真的用得上，不是摆一张图装饰答案。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第3格
|
||||
|
||||
蓝色：我夸的是：它主动找了更好懂的讲法，不是随手加个特效。
|
||||
|
||||
红色：那你就说清楚嘛。我还以为又翻车了。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第4格
|
||||
|
||||
蓝色：真心夸！没要求，也知道该画图。
|
||||
|
||||
红色：懂了。图表清楚，夸人的措辞不太清楚。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第6页：能力与能否持续使用
|
||||
|
||||
### 第1格
|
||||
|
||||
红色：不过，测试里“问得少”是一回事，日常能聊多久又是另一回事。我看到有人说，七次普通提问就用掉了五小时额度的 52%。那我还怎么边学边问？
|
||||
|
||||
### 第2格
|
||||
|
||||
蓝色：那就把问题攒起来，尽量一次交代完整？像做大型代码库那位，把需求和上下文给足，让它一次做一整件事。也许比一句一句追问更划算。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第3格
|
||||
|
||||
红色：可学习不是先写好问卷。我得听懂上一句，才知道下一句该问什么。不能为了少问几次，假装自己已经懂了。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第4格
|
||||
|
||||
蓝色：那就不能只看“最聪明”。还得看你能不能按自己的节奏用。
|
||||
|
||||
红色：对。回答再好，聊到一半就得停课，我也很难说用得舒服。别人觉得值，不等于我的用法也合适。
|
||||
|
||||
## 第7页：检查点传闻与当下判断
|
||||
|
||||
### 第1格
|
||||
|
||||
蓝色：还有人说，Google 已经备好更强的检查点了。可能补进 Argon，也可能叫 Gemini 4.1。真要这样，今天这场争论，说不定下周又得重来。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第2格
|
||||
|
||||
深灰色：“有人说”得先加粗。那是传闻，版本名和上线方式都没定。你不能拿下一扇门后面可能有的东西，替现在这个模型加分。先说你手里能用到的。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第3格
|
||||
|
||||
橙色：那先分开：现在能用的，按任务试；没公布的，别替它算成绩。
|
||||
|
||||
### 第4格
|
||||
|
||||
深灰色：我可以接受它某项不如 Opus，另一项却更适合我。前提是先讲清楚：测了什么，用的是什么条件。
|
||||
|
||||
蓝色：行。下次我带结果来，少带一点“听说”。
|
||||
+11
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||||
# 对白重写试排版
|
||||
|
||||
按用户最后指定的重点讨论大幅重写，共7页，约1900字（含英文模型名称与标点）。所有原画文件保持不变，仅重排阅读顺序与后期文字。移除角色名、页标题、页码、上下说明；每位说话者使用固定颜色，颜色与服装对应。
|
||||
|
||||
页面顺序：前沿模型的期待与失望；写作偏好的转折；企业用户的大型代码库体验；二十问测试；主动交互图表；使用额度；下一检查点的传闻。
|
||||
|
||||
二十问的设置及“30局、与Astra并列第一、Opus稍后”来自用户贴出的测试作者评论。所给 deep20bench 链接未能通过工具访问，没有据此声称独立复跑或核验了该测试。漫画对白用“发测试的人说”保留归属，并明确测试不能回答Rust与按规格做项目的优劣。
|
||||
|
||||
企业套餐、3.1 Pro与Sonnet的比较及跨库体验，同样为用户选定评论的主观体验改编。后续检查点在对白中保留为传闻。来源与参考仍为用户给出的两篇Reddit讨论，已抓取部分的记录在上一版sources中保留。
|
||||
|
||||
PDF和pages/为纯漫画。editable/内SVG嵌入原画，文字可独立修改；使用Hannotate SC字体，其他电脑没有该字体时可能回退到系统字体，PNG与PDF不受影响。script.md用文字颜色标记对白，不使用人物姓名。
|
||||
Reference in New Issue
Block a user